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Technical riddle. You have a computer stored in a bomb shelter

 
 
timur
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 03:07 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Your life experiences mean very little to me.

I think they should have taught you some intellectual honesty but it doesn't seem to be the case.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 03:30 pm
@timur,
http://www.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000z_stJWxIpdc/s/600/210/Tails-Up.jpg


http://www.buzzle.com/images/quotes/zen-quote-buddha.jpg
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 04:04 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
It's just as well that you're very relaxed about having been made to look like a complete dickhead by Parados, Contrex and Timur. Looks like you're going to be very relaxed for the considerable future.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 04:17 pm
@izzythepush,
If you want to argue, with the Harvard engineers, who invented DNA hard drive storage, please do, however the technology is real, just because others are not aware of it, does not make it less real.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram

http://nextgenseek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/EncodingInformationAsDNA.jpg

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 04:51 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
I don't see the point arguing with someone who lost the plot a couple of pages back.
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 05:00 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
By John Bohannon, ScienceNOW

http://www.wired.com/2012/08/dna-data-storage/

When it comes to storing information, hard drives don’t hold a candle to DNA. Our genetic code packs billions of gigabytes into a single gram. A mere milligram of the molecule could encode the complete text of every book in the Library of Congress and have plenty of room to spare. All of this has been mostly theoretical — until now. In a new study, researchers stored an entire genetics textbook in less than a picogram of DNA — one trillionth of a gram — an advance that could revolutionize our ability to save data.

A few teams have tried to write data into the genomes of living cells. But the approach has a couple of disadvantages. First, cells die — not a good way to lose your term paper. They also replicate, introducing new mutations over time that can change the data.



To get around these problems, a team led by George Church, a synthetic biologist at Harvard Medical School in Boston, created a DNA information-archiving system that uses no cells at all. Instead, an inkjet printer embeds short fragments of chemically synthesized DNA onto the surface of a tiny glass chip. To encode a digital file, researchers divide it into tiny blocks of data and convert these data not into the 1s and 0s of typical digital storage media, but rather into DNA’s four-letter alphabet of As, Cs, Gs, and Ts. Each DNA fragment also contains a digital “barcode” that records its location in the original file. Reading the data requires a DNA sequencer and a computer to reassemble all of the fragments in order and convert them back into digital format. The computer also corrects for errors; each block of data is replicated thousands of times so that any chance glitch can be identified and fixed by comparing it to the other copies.

To demonstrate its system in action, the team used the DNA chips to encode a genetics book co-authored by Church. It worked. After converting the book into DNA and translating it back into digital form, the team’s system had a raw error rate of only two errors per million bits, amounting to a few single-letter typos. That is on par with DVDs and far better than magnetic hard drives. And because of their tiny size, DNA chips are now the storage medium with the highest known information density, the researchers report online today in Science.

Don’t replace your flash drive with genetic material just yet, however. The cost of the DNA sequencer and other instruments “currently makes this impractical for general use,” says Daniel Gibson, a synthetic biologist at the J. Craig Venter Institute in Rockville, Maryland, “but the field is moving fast and the technology will soon be cheaper, faster, and smaller.” Gibson led the team that created the first completely synthetic genome, which included a “watermark” of extra data encoded into the DNA. The researchers used a three-letter coding system that is less efficient than the Church team’s but has built-in safeguards to prevent living cells from translating the DNA into proteins. “If DNA is going to be used for this purpose, and outside a laboratory setting, then you would want to use DNA sequence that is least likely to be expressed in the environment,” he says. Church disagrees. Unless someone deliberately “subverts” his DNA data-archiving system, he sees little danger.

This story provided by ScienceNOW, the daily online news service of the journal Science.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 09:09 pm
Carbon fiber diary is a much better answer.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Sun 7 Dec, 2014 09:45 pm
@McGentrix,
It was an excellent guess. A diary was part of the answer.

Thanks for responding.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:15 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Perhaps you need to read the encoding process.

There can be no number 2 in binary. Your own posts prove they didn't use binary on DNA.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 07:34 am
@parados,
Your argument on this is not with me, but with Harvard engineers, let us know what they say to your criticisms?

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/134672-harvard-cracks-dna-storage-crams-700-terabytes-of-data-into-a-single-gram

A bioengineer and geneticist at Harvard’s Wyss Institute have successfully stored 5.5 petabits of data — around 700 terabytes — in a single gram of DNA, smashing the previous DNA data density record by a thousand times.

The work, carried out by George Church and Sri Kosuri, basically treats DNA as just another digital storage device. Instead of binary data being encoded as magnetic regions on a hard drive platter, strands of DNA that store 96 bits are synthesized, with each of the bases (TGAC) representing a binary value (T and G = 1, A and C = 0).

To read the data stored in DNA, you simply sequence it — just as if you were sequencing the human genome — and convert each of the TGAC bases back into binary. To aid with sequencing, each strand of DNA has a 19-bit address block at the start (the red bits in the image below) — so a whole vat of DNA can be sequenced out of order, and then sorted into usable data using the addresses.


parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:28 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
No. My argument is with you. You are the one that said the information was in the machine. You are the one that said the hard drives in the machine had been melted at some point during the time period in question.

Riddle for you to answer. How do you melt aluminum or glass in a 4' x 4' box (No computer is that big anymore.) without heating anything else up? When you can answer that for us then I will accept that I was wrong.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:30 am
@parados,
You can do some DNA hard drive research. Here are 6.5 million links from Google, that you say can not be real, because there is no number 2 in binary code-----> https://www.google.com/#q=dna+hard+drives

Now have a really pleasant day.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:46 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
I see you still won't admit your original riddle was bogus.
timur
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 08:47 am
@parados,
Bogus is an euphemism..
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:40 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66pjvrKJf1qf9lr1o1_400.jpg
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Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:40 am
@timur,
"Bogus is an euphemism.."


And a Whoopi Goldberg fillum.
timur
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 09:55 am
@Lordyaswas,
That filum is quite terminal..

Those guys at Razzie awards tend to nominate her.
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DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 10:04 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Apple trees, and honey bees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-Q
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