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"Fahrenheit 9/11" to Open June 25th in 1,000 Theaters

 
 
couzz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 03:21 am
BOX OFFICE UPDATE FOR "F911"

New overseas figures in as of 7-21-04:

Domestic: $97,154,000 87.8%
+ Overseas: $13,524,000 12.2%

= Worldwide: $110,678,000

From:
boxofficemojo.com
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 10:17 am
It continues to roll on --I haven't read the Wall Street Journal's front page article about the film yet. Anyone seen it?
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couzz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:04 pm
Wall Street Journal has four articles on Michael Moore and/or "F911" on 7/23/04

This one is the Harris Poll article:

'Fahrenheit 9/11' Receives
Thumbs Up by Moviegoers


A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS ROUNDUP
July 23, 2004

Michael Moore's movie, "Fahrenheit 9/11", stirred up controversy before its U.S. release, but the effect of the movie should have Mr. Moore smiling. Seventy-six percent of Americans who have seen the film said they gave it a positive rating -- including 44% of Republicans, a recent Harris Interactive poll indicates.

But true to the movie's strong partisan overtones, many more Democrats than Republicans have seen or are planning to see the movie. Perhaps more troubling for the Bush Administration, independents were as likely as Democrats to have seen "Fahrenheit 9/11" and nearly as likely to give it a thumbs up. In most recent presidential elections, the candidate who received the most independent votes won.

Here are the results of the latest poll:

"Have you seen Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11?"
(IF NOT SEEN) "How likely is it that you will see it?"

Base: All Adults

Total-- Republican--Democrat--Independent
Yes, seen 13 7 17 18
Not seen but extremely or very likely to see 21 10 30 20

* * *
"How would you rate the movie?"
Base: Adults who have seen the movie

Total Republican Democrat Independent
POSITIVE 76% 44% 89% 70%
Excellent 47 23 60 45
Good 29 21 30 25
NEGATIVE 24 56 11 30
Fair 11 16 10 10
Poor 13 40 1 20

* * *
"Do you think the movie is fair or unfair in its presentation about President Bush?"
Base: Adults who have seen the movie

Total Republican Democrat Independent
Fair 64% 30% 85% 56%
Unfair 24 58 8 27
Not sure 11 12 7 16

Methodology: The Harris Poll was conducted online within the U.S. between July 12 and 16, 2004 among a nationwide cross section of 2,242 adults. Figures for age, sex, race, education, region and household income were weighted where necessary to bring them into line with their actual proportions in the population. Propensity score weighting was also used to adjust for respondents' propensity to be online. In theory, with probability samples of this size, one could say with 95% certainty that the results have a sampling error of ±2 percentage points of what they would be if the entire adult population had been polled with complete accuracy.
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couzz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:09 pm
Michael Moore's
'Fahrenheit 9/11'
Carpet-Bombs U.S.

Wall St. Journal--July 23, 2004

Michael Moore is right where he wants to be: top o' the world. Hollywood gave him his Oscar for "Bowling for Columbine," a French film festival gave him a prize for "Fahrenheit 9/11," and the entire Republican firmament is raving at him for making a duplicitous movie about George Bush that is packing them in as a general-release feature. "Fahrenheit 9/11" has put him over the top, all right.

I saw it last Friday night in Manhattan's Gramercy Park neighborhood, and when it was over a full house cheered and applauded. Moore takes his politically prepackaged audience on a roller-coaster ride, starting them on TV-studio outtakes of administration officials just before they're about to go on television -- Bush, Powell, Rice, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft. Some are getting daubed with pancake makeup. They all look a little vacant, as everyone does in the minutes before airtime. It's a yuk.

Then he's into the morning of September 11 in downtown New York -- showing clips of the dust and debris-filled air, but in melodramatic slow-motion, a gratuitous slathering-on of emotion that I haven't seen in any other 9/11 documentary. My sense was that even this audience wasn't wholly comfortable with what he had done here. No matter; he gets them off the hook when he introduces the war in Afghanistan by imposing the opening credits and music from the popular 1960s TV Western, "Bonanza." A big laugh.

The mood darkens when Moore's camera (or someone's camera) gets inside Walter Reed hospital in Washington, showing military amputees from the Iraq war. The rush of raw images is disturbing, no matter what your views, but the politics are brought quickly into focus by a thin soldier with nerve damage, who has a message: He used to be a Republican, but when he gets out, he's going to work hard to elect Democrats. The tour through the amputee ward at Walter Reed is just a set-up, a schtick, to deliver an anti-Bush punch line.

Sometimes Moore himself delivers the punch lines, but more often he programs his film's characters to deliver them. Even if they're dead. In the movie's big moment, the mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, sitting surrounded by her family, reads his last letter home in which, among other things, he says that he hopes everyone will vote to defeat George Bush. By this point, it's hard not to notice that the theater smells of stale popcorn.

Virtually everyone in "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- and it doesn't matter which side they're on -- is a dupe or a stupe in Michael's world. A long segment features a Fresno peace group, supposedly infiltrated by an undercover cop. Filming in their meeting room, Moore makes them look like goofy, witless innocents, and just so you don't miss the point, he runs tinkly soda-pop music beneath their scenes.

A young Oregon state highway patrolman looks like a fool, because he's standing guard on a highway in the middle of nowhere. Residents of Tappahannock, Va., commenting on a bureaucratic snafu over their town's name, sound like bewildered country yokels.

Moore's on-camera characters are invariably lower middle class and inarticulate. In fact, no one is physically attractive or stylish, which allows Moore's big-city target audience to stay inside its normal film-going comfort zone of smirking condescension.

The U.S. soldiers who speak onscreen in Iraq come across as bloodless killers with Southern accents. They sound stupidly unfeeling about the war's destruction. It wasn't clear to me that even this audience was in sync with the filmmaker's willingness to make a mockery of American soldiers. Moore's misanthropy is equal opportunity; he shows a greasy white guy in Flint, Mich., with a tattoo on his arm, whose thoughts on domestic security are that you can't trust anyone anymore, even people you know. That got a big laugh. All the people in Moore's beloved Flint -- which appears in "Fahrenheit" as a few bombed-out housing blocks -- are either dopey white trash or oppressed blacks. Two Marine recruiters walking around a U.S. shopping center are manipulative and opportunistic. They're made to look bad.

To make some point about domestic security, he shows a passenger's encounter at check-in with an improbable airport security guard -- a befuddled, older woman in glasses, curly white hair and a Midwestern accent. Moore doesn't give this woman the courtesy of identifying where she works. She's nowhere.

Even the Iraqi victims in Baghdad are props. A baby's corpse is lifted from a dumpster, bloodied limbs are shown, people wail -- but in a succession of quick frames. Moore never spends any time with these people. They just, so to speak, blow by.

In a sequence on the U.S.'s allies, Romania is depicted with a movie-stock Dracula figure (these are the people who freed themselves from Ceausescu), and Morocco is represented by monkeys scampering along the ground. That got a laugh, but not a big one.

It's hard to know whether Moore's filmmaking is sloppy or some sort of sleight-of-hand. Other than the Weinstein brothers and Moore, the film's official credits list only 15 people. Either "Fahrenheit" is a tape-and-paste job, or some colleagues have gotten short shrift. The director's cut must be huge.

Weirdly, the only people Moore seems to treat with simple respect are politicians who ape his agenda, such as Sen. Byron Dorgan and Rep. Jim McDermott. By "Fahrenheit's" end, you conclude that Moore sees the world as full of mostly useful idiots, including the audience (and probably the audience cheering him at the Oscars).

This is moviemaking for bicoastal cultural elites. They get to look down at the opposition, at "Bush," but they also get to feel superior to their own foot soldiers in the proletarian heartland. With no need to distinguish truth or detail, "Fahrenheit 9/11" is moral carpet-bombing from 10,000 feet.
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couzz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:22 pm
The Politics of Oscar

Will 'Fahrenheit,' 'Passion'
Polarize Academy Awards?
The Weinstein Factor

By JOHN LIPPMAN
Wall St. Journal--July 23, 2004

Come this fall, the campaigns should be in full swing, canvassing for votes, spending a fortune in ads and sending out mailers. It will be suburban conservatives versus urban liberals, champions of traditional values against protesters for change.

The presidential election? No, the competing Oscar campaigns expected for "The Passion of the Christ" and "Fahrenheit 9/11."

Early as it is to start discussing Oscars, some industry insiders are starting to quietly talk about a blue-state-versus-red-state battle over Best Picture nominations. The idea was stoked by Jon Feltheimer, chief executive of Lions Gate Entertainment, a co-distributor of the film, who hinted in a conference call with Wall Street analysts a few weeks ago that his goal is to win a Best Picture nomination. Mr. Moore's picture "could conceivably be nominated not in the documentary category" said Mr. Feltheimer. "I'll leave it at that."

Meanwhile, supporters of "The Passion" are being coy about their Oscar plans. "Campaign or not, this film is deserving of Best Picture. It certainly would be on anyone's short list, as would be the director and actors," says Mr. Gibson's spokesman, Alan Nierob. Certainly, Mr. Gibson could finance a major campaign: He privately funded "Passion" and has reaped huge profits from it.

But the Oscars are a long way away, and a lot can change before then. Summer films, even big ones, rarely make it all the way to the Kodak Theatre, and many major contenders like Oliver Stone's "Alexander" and Martin Scorsese's "The Aviator" won't even be released until late in the year. What's more, in handing out the top award, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences usually sticks to live-action comedies and dramas: Even the wildly popular, but animated, feature, "Beauty and the Beast" (1991), didn't make it all the way. Another stumbling block for "Fahrenheit 9/11" is that no documentary has ever been nominated for Best Picture, despite a crusade for the basketball film "Hoop Dreams" (1994).

Still, many in the film community look like they'd put more money on "Fahrenheit" getting a Best Picture nomination. Liberal Hollywood gave Mr. Moore a four-minute standing ovation when "Fahrenheit" premiered in Hollywood last month. The event resembled the Academy Awards itself, with dozens of Hollywood's liberal luminaries, including Norman Lear, Rob Reiner, Larry David, Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks. The New York premiere a week later attracted the likes of Lauren Bacall, Glenn Close and Spike Lee. Leonardo DiCaprio attended both events.

Moreover, "Fahrenheit" campaigners will include Harvey Weinstein. He's still widely regarded as Hollywood's most wily Oscar strategist, despite a poorer showing for his studio, Miramax, the past two years. He and his brother Bob, also a Miramax executive, bought the rights to "Fahrenheit" from their own company when parent Walt Disney Co. refused to let Miramax distribute it. "We think it should be the first documentary nominated for Best Picture based on everything that's happened and how it's been received," says Ken Sunshine, Harvey Weinstein's spokesman on the film.

As for "Passion," one issue is whether enough key people have even seen the film. Despite its commercial success, many of Hollywood's top decision-makers -- including studio chiefs, agents, marketing executives and publicists -- shunned it in theaters. In the months after its release, more than 10 top Hollywood executives said off the record that they hadn't seen the movie -- though it's the second most popular of the year. Some cited its alleged anti-Semitism (denied by Mr. Gibson), its graphic violence and its source material, which goes beyond the gospels to include episodes based on saintly visions.

Ironically, if Harvey Weinstein gets out front in any "Fahrenheit" Oscar campaign, that would put him into conflict with Miramax's own Best Picture hopeful, the Howard Hughes biography "Aviator."

Wachowski Watch

Most directors who score big hits want to quickly parlay that momentum into making another movie, so fleeting are filmmaker careers in Hollywood. So it's noteworthy that brothers Larry and Andy Wachowski -- behind "The Matrix" trilogy, which racked up more than $1 billion in U.S. ticket sales -- only have a few projects languishing in development; none is close to starting production. Nor have the brothers decided when they will return to filmmaking, or what they'll make when they do return.

"They're taking a little bit of a breather because the three back-to-back 'Matrix' movies were so exhausting," says Laurence Mattis, one of their two agents. He says the brothers have been busy producing spinoff "Matrix" products, such as a multiplayer online video game making its debut later this year and an X-Box "Matrix" game for 2005.

When they do get back to work, the brothers are most likely to make another movie for Warner Bros., which, along with Village Roadshow, financed "The Matrix" trilogy. One possibility is "V for Vendetta," from Alan Moore's graphic novel, set in futuristic London, about a vigilante who plots a revolt against a totalitarian government. The movie would be produced by "Matrix" producer Joel Silver.


CHURCH AND STATE
"Passion" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" may be headed for the Oscars; See some categories in which they could compete below.

CATEGORY 'FAHRENHEIT 9/11' 'THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST'
Best Picture If Mr. Bush is defeated, this movie will be credited with helping his demise, but Mr. Moore has been criticized for playing fast and loose with facts. Box-office smash sparked national debate about meaning of Christ's death, but also spurred allegations of anti-Semitism, criticism of graphic violence.
Best Director Mr. Moore has been praised for mixing humor, high seriousness. Supporters see singular artistic vision; Mr. Gibson's "Braveheart" won Oscar.
Best Cinematography Since much of film is archive footage, it's unlikely to qualify. Cinematography applauded, but likely to face strong rivals.
Best Screenplay A comedian's flair for the "bon mot" punchline. Script is co-written by veteran Benedict Fitzgerald ("Wise Blood").
Best Actor Not applicable James Caviezel has been highly praised for role as Christ.
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couzz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 02:32 pm
The fourth Wall St. Journal article regarding Michael Moore on July 23, 2004 was a music article about Linda Ronstadt. I posted the information about this article earlier today.

See:
MM offers to screen "F911" free at Aladdin Casino in Las Vegas
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 05:59 pm
thanks, couzz
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 23 Jul, 2004 07:57 pm
Thanks from here, too, couzz. My internet access was interrupted by going to back to dial-up from cable (I installed VOOM Hi-Def satellite).

Jim Caviezal made a good career decision to portray Christ in Mel's movie even though it was really only a few scenes where he was able to move me with the performance. The agony was real because he was actually physically hurt during the performance -- an inadvertant display of Mel's underlying sadism? Jim's interviews has been as exciting as his portrayal of Bobby Jones in perhaps the biggest yawner box office flop of the year. He said in one interview that he thought golf was like watching snow melt and proceeded to prove it.

"F9/11" premiered in Poland yesterday and one pundit again declared that it reminded him of Nazi propaganda. Yes, we're sure Michael is anti-Semitic even if Mel isn't? Certainly he believes there's a master race -- Bush supporters.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 09:14 pm
It seems many on this forum still thinks F9-11 is so much BS. Maybe they can give some good answers to Dowd's opinions/charges.
***************************
Spinning Our Safety
July 25, 2004
By MAUREEN DOWD

Maybe it's because I've been instructed to pack a
respirator escape hood along with party dresses for the
Boston convention. Maybe it's because our newspaper has
assigned a terrorism reporter to cover a political
convention. Maybe it's because George Bush is relaxing at
his ranch down there (again) while Osama is planning a big
attack up here (again). Maybe it's because there are just
as many American soldiers dying in Iraq post-transfer, more
Muslims more mad at us over fake W.M.D. intelligence and
depravity at Abu Ghraib, and more terrorists in more
diffuse networks hating us more.

Maybe it's because the F.B.I. is still learning how to
Google and the C.I.A. has an acting head who spends most of
his time acting defensive over his agency's failure to get
anything right. Maybe it's because so many of those federal
twits who missed the 10 chances to stop the 9/11 hijackers,
who blew off our Paul Reveres - Richard Clarke, Coleen
Rowley and the Phoenix memo author - still run things. Call
me crazy, Mr. President, but I don't feel any safer.

The nation's mesmerizing new best seller, the 9/11
commission report, lays bare how naked we still are against
an attack, and how vulnerable we are because of the time
and money the fuzzy-headed Bush belligerents wasted going
after the wrong target.

Even scarier, the commissioners expect Congress, which they
denounced as "dysfunctional" on intelligence oversight, to
get busy fixing things just as lawmakers are flying home
for vacation.

The report offers vivid details on our worst fears. Instead
of focusing on immediately hitting back at Osama, Bush
officials indulged their idiotic idée fixe on Saddam and
ignored the memo from their counter-terrorism experts
dismissing any connection between the religious fanatic bin
Laden and the secular Hussein.

"On the afternoon of 9/11, according to contemporaneous
notes, Secretary Rumsfeld instructed General Myers to
obtain quickly as much information as possible," the report
says. " The notes indicate that he also told Myers that he
was not simply interested in striking empty training sites.
The secretary said his instinct was to hit Saddam Hussein
at the same time - not only bin Laden."

At the first Camp David meeting after 9/11, the report
states, "Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz made the case for
striking Iraq during 'this round' of the war on terrorism."


Six days after the World Trade Center towers were
pulverized, when we should have been striking Osama with
everything we had, the Bush team was absorbed with old
grudges and stale assumptions.

"At the September 17 N.S.C. meeting, there was some further
discussion of 'phase two' of the war on terrorism," the
report says. "President Bush ordered the Defense Department
to be ready to deal with Iraq if Baghdad acted against U.S.
interests, with plans to include possibly occupying Iraqi
oil fields."

President Bush was unsure of himself, relying too much on a
vice president whose deep, calm voice belied a deeply
cracked world view.

He explained to the commissioners that he had stayed in his
seat making little fish faces at second graders for seven
minutes after learning about the second plane hitting the
towers because, as the report says, "The president felt he
should project strength and calm until he could better
understand what was happening."

What better way to track the terror in the Northeast skies
than by reading "My Pet Goat" in Sarasota?

The commissioners warn that the price for the Bush bullies'
attention deficit disorder could be high: "If, for example,
Iraq becomes a failed state, it will go to the top of the
list of places that are breeding grounds for attacks
against Americans at home. Similarly, if we are paying
insufficient attention to Afghanistan, the rule of the
Taliban or warlords and narcotraffickers may re-emerge and
its countryside could once again offer refuge to Al Qaeda,
or its successor."

And, if that's not ominous enough, consider this: "The
problem is that Al Qaeda represents an ideological
movement, not a finite group of people. It initiates and
inspires, even if it no longer directs."

"Yet killing or capturing" Osama, the report says, "while
extremely important, would not end terror. His message of
inspiration to a new generation of terrorists would
continue."

If the Bush crowd hadn't been besotted with the idea of
smoking Saddam, they could have stomped Osama in Tora Bora.
Now it's too late. Al Qaeda has become a state of mind.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/25/opinion/25dowd.html?ex=1091760018&ei=1&en=7b2c774e81262335

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2004 10:16 pm
Maureen does sound a bit worked up there at the end and this is only July. I think her rage will only be exceeded by that of Michael Moore come November 2nd.

Maybe they'll both relocate to a country more to their liking. One can hope.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 08:41 am
Not the old and tired mantra about "love my country or leave it." This is stale John Birch rhetoric and only shows how many shallow minds there are left on these boards.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 09:24 am
JustWonders wrote:
Maybe they'll both relocate to a country more to their liking. One can hope.


I will gladly contribute one dollar to a fund to purchase you an airline ticket to any place in the world you might wish to relocate too. Might I suggest Cuba, they practice your political philosophy with typical latin gusto.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 09:42 am
Right -- nationalism is not necessarily patriotism. Advocacy to one point of view of one person or a group is not a benchmark for patriotism. The US leadership is made up of flawed human beings and when their flaws outweigh their attributes, it is time for them to go. Making that decision is not always based on getting and interpreting all the best information. With the pundits whether they be on FOX, CNN, MSNBC, et al, I take it all with a grain of salt. I'm capable of making my own decisions, not parroting the rhetoric of politicians and especially or country's leaders who want to get elected or re-elected.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:15 am
Hey, now. Just stating my opinion here. Of course you don't know one thing about me upon which to base your opinion that I'm a shallow-minded Bircher, however, I understand you embracing Maureen's opinion since she obviously sits in on the President's daily briefings, has unlimited access to the innumerable intelligence-gathering agencies and has a profound insight into the minds of bin Laden and his Al Qaeda thugs who are bent on destroying this country.

So, in MY opinion, if she and Moore decide to make their exits, I hope they'll take Streisand, Lange, Cher, Sarandon, et al with them.

Your opinion of me is of no more interest than your opinion of Maureen's opinion, so don't get your panties all in a bunch.

Acquiunk - keep your dollar or donate it to a more worthy cause LOL. By the way, your quote needs a bit of editing; also, did you know that Ted Williams was a political conservative? Of course you did Smile)
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:19 am
That quote is not about his politics, but his philosophy of life.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2004 11:22 am
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 10:48 am
An addendum to F9-11.
******************
Fear of Fraud
July 27, 2004
By PAUL KRUGMAN

It's election night, and early returns suggest trouble for
the incumbent. Then, mysteriously, the vote count stops and
observers from the challenger's campaign see employees of a
voting-machine company, one wearing a badge that identifies
him as a county official, typing instructions at computers
with access to the vote-tabulating software.

When the count resumes, the incumbent pulls ahead. The
challenger demands an investigation. But there are no
ballots to recount, and election officials allied with the
incumbent refuse to release data that could shed light on
whether there was tampering with the electronic records.

This isn't a paranoid fantasy. It's a true account of a
recent election in Riverside County, Calif., reported by
Andrew Gumbel of the British newspaper The Independent. Mr.
Gumbel's full-length report, printed in Los Angeles City
Beat, makes hair-raising reading not just because it
reinforces concerns about touch-screen voting, but also
because it shows how easily officials can stonewall after a
suspect election.

Some states, worried about the potential for abuse with
voting machines that leave no paper trail, have banned
their use this November. But Florida, which may well decide
the presidential race, is not among those states, and last
month state officials rejected a request to allow
independent audits of the machines' integrity. A spokesman
for Gov. Jeb Bush accused those seeking audits of trying to
"undermine voters' confidence," and declared, "The governor
has every confidence in the Department of State and the
Division of Elections."

Should the public share that confidence? Consider the felon
list.

Florida law denies the vote to convicted felons. In 2000
the state hired a firm to purge supposed felons from the
list of registered voters; these voters were turned away
from the polls. After the election, determined by 537
votes, it became clear that thousands of people had been
wrongly disenfranchised. Since those misidentified as
felons were disproportionately Democratic-leaning
African-Americans, these errors may have put George W. Bush
in the White House.

This year, Florida again hired a private company -
Accenture, which recently got a homeland security contract
worth up to $10 billion - to prepare a felon list.
Remembering 2000, journalists sought copies. State
officials stonewalled, but a judge eventually ordered the
list released.

The Miami Herald quickly discovered that 2,100 citizens who
had been granted clemency, restoring their voting rights,
were nonetheless on the banned-voter list. Then The
Sarasota Herald-Tribune discovered that only 61 of more
than 47,000 supposed felons were Hispanic. So the list
would have wrongly disenfranchised many legitimate
African-American voters, while wrongly enfranchising many
Hispanic felons. It escaped nobody's attention that in
Florida, Hispanic voters tend to support Republicans.

After first denying any systematic problem, state officials
declared it an innocent mistake. They told Accenture to
match a list of registered voters to a list of felons,
flagging anyone whose name, date of birth and race was the
same on both lists. They didn't realize, they said, that
this would automatically miss felons who identified
themselves as Hispanic because that category exists on
voter rolls but not in state criminal records.

But employees of a company that prepared earlier felon
lists say that they repeatedly warned state election
officials about that very problem.

Let's not be coy. Jeb Bush says he won't allow an
independent examination of voting machines because he has
"every confidence" in his handpicked election officials.
Yet those officials have a history of slipshod performance
on other matters related to voting and somehow their errors
always end up favoring Republicans. Why should anyone trust
their verdict on the integrity of voting machines, when
another convenient mistake could deliver a Republican
victory in a high-stakes national election?

This shouldn't be a partisan issue. Think about what a
tainted election would do to America's sense of itself, and
its role in the world. In the face of official
stonewalling, doubters probably wouldn't be able to prove
one way or the other whether the vote count was distorted -
but if the result looked suspicious, most of the world and
many Americans would believe the worst. I'll write soon
about what can be done in the few weeks that remain, but
here's a first step: if Governor Bush cares at all about
the future of the nation, as well as his family's political
fortunes, he will allow that independent audit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/27/opinion/27krug.html?ex=1091918849&ei=1&en=bb17bb19a6f4f91e

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 11:01 am
All these "innocent" mistakes are about as convincing as the moon turning blue.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 11:24 am
The bigger picture is this administration's push for democracy in Iraq, while our "democracy" is in termoil. They just don't "get it."
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2004 11:30 am
We're almost as divided as all the Muslim religious factions in Iraq that are causing all the problems including non-Iraqi insurgents, most of them which can be classified as terrorists.
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