Common objects older than 10,000 years

yeast does the magic

You don't have to grow that, though.

ya gotta grow the potatoes to make the soup to grow the yeast to make the beer that dale quaffs

Naw . . . you can just leave the sh*t to sit around in the open air and nature will take it's course.

Joe Nation has a jar of mixed herbs that may fit the bill.

Hops even more important than barley

If the beer industry goes kaput, so does many economies. Can you imagine all the beer halls, bars, pubs, and restaurants that would lose business?

The world economy would shrink by 50%!

maybe, but productivity'd go up 300%. Jesus, look at the English, what've they done lately?

totally off-tangent




(from a knitting site)

Yea, but the per capita income in (2013) the UK is $39,337. After rent and food, what's left for their pub spending?

Its not English, but have you read " Angela's Ashes"? That story is about how someone of minimal means manages to drink away an entire paycheck

No, but I read "I'll Cry Tomorrow" by Lillian Roth who drank herself into hell. It's a wonder she survived. The movie with Susan Hayward was done pretty well, but with most movies it left out too much of her story.

At one point when she was at the top of her career, she was admired, wealthy, and doing well in shows and movies - making good money.

When she hit bottom, she didn't even have enough money to buy liquor.

After her recovery with AA, she goes on a tour to Australia, and ends up saving many drunks lives.

An amazing true story.

Thinking about all the great drinkers of the 20th century, Lillian Hellman came to mind. I'm confused because I can't remember if she was the gifted author, playwright, activist and close companion of Dashiell Hammett, author of 'The Maltese Falcon', 'The Thin Man' and 'The Glass Key' and many others.....OR was she the gifted foodie who developed America's beloved Hellman's Mayonnaise.

Can anyone help me out???

Just saw this......



Ancient grave of three infants is found in Alaska: 11,500-year-old burial holds remains of North America's earliest inhabitants

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2828915/Ancient-grave-three-infants-Alaska.html

This fruit cake is well over 10,000 years old, and has been "re-gifted" within the family since the upper paleolothic.

Only if it has rum in it.

The Willendorf Venus is a quite sophisticated sculpture of a woman from 35,000 years ago. However showing any number of carefully scientifically dated objects demonstrating the progress of humans through the millennia will be pointless if these "christian college" folks have already sealed their minds shut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Willendorf

v. funny

that's a good one. the Willendor "venus" had its stratigraphy re-evaluated by a couple of really good geologists back in the 90's an they discovered ll sorts of indictors from pollen of specific plants no longer native there and some small layers of wind blown sediments that carried temperature indicators that correlate with units of sediments from places where they had tree ring data that far back.
Willendorf would make a super argument if one would first look at ALL the evidence available an then show its calculated age.

Good one.

You wrote,

Doesn't it make you wonder why these 'well educated' folks would "seal their minds shut" at all the evidence that surrounds us? It's an interesting human phenomenon that's hard to explain, since none of them will admit the error of their beliefs.