What are Your Beliefs of Suicide?

There are reports that Robin Williams did not leave a suicide note at the scene but he did write a bunch of notes and got them to people explaining why he did what he did. We do you stand on giving explanations?

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When it comes to something as critical as that I think it best to play it by ear. I'll do what feels right for me and I expect others will do the same.

(CNN) -- The parents who pulled their cancer-stricken son from a British hospital and spurred an international search for the boy have been ordered to appear Monday in a court in Spain, where they were arrested, police said.
Brett and Naghmeh King took their 5-year-old son, Ashya, who has brain cancer, to France and then Spain late last week, authorities said. Hotel staff members in Malaga, Spain, recognized Ashya and his family from media coverage and contacted police.
Authorities did not confirm what charges the couple will face, but say that "cruelty" could be one of them as suggested by British law.
British police have arrived in Spain to question the parents, Malaga police told CNN. The British Crown Prosecution Service will be working on extradition efforts.
The court appearance is part of a European arrest order that was issued by Britain against the couple.
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"We pleaded with them for proton beam treatment. They looked at me straight in the face and said with his cancer, which is called medulloblastoma, it would have no benefit whatsoever." King said he then looked on the Internet and found sites in the United States, France and Switzerland on proton beam treatment that "said the opposite that it would be beneficial for him."
The University Hospital in Southampton issued a statement saying they are working with doctors in Malaga to ensure Ashya's welfare and "are delighted that he has been found."
"We are aware of the comments made online by his father," the statement said. "Throughout Ashya's admission we have had conversations about the treatment options available to him and we had offered the family access to a second opinion, as well as assistance with organizing treatment abroad."
After Ashya was taken from the hospital without authorization Thursday, the family -- including Ashya's six siblings -- boarded a ferry and headed to Cherbourg, France, that night, police in Britain said.

In the Robin Williams thread there seems to be some consensus that we wish that suicide did not happen but there are no reasons given, and their seems to be no other consensus. Someone who I dont know named Henry Robbins wrote in LA weekly about Willaims:

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On more than one of my USO tours, Robin Williams had been on the same stage a few days before me. That’s all I needed to know about him. As far as I was concerned, he was a good man.

But it’s here where I step off the train. I am sure some will strongly disagree with what I’m about to say. And I also understand that his personal struggles were quite real. I can’t argue with that.

But I simply cannot understand how any parent could kill themselves.

How in the hell could you possibly do that to your children? I don’t care how well adjusted your kid might be — choosing to kill yourself, rather than to be there for that child, is every shade of awful, traumatic and confusing. I think as soon as you have children, you waive your right to take your own life. No matter what mistakes you make in life, it should be your utmost goal not to traumatize your kids. So, you don’t kill yourself.

http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/21/henry-rollins-****-suicide#more

Where do you stand? Do you owe it to people to stick around no matter how deep your pain? Is your choosing to go anyone elses business? Should we try to talk people out of suicide or snitch on them to the state trying to keep them here? If you do decide to go do you owe your loved ones an explaination?

My view: Undecided. My socialism teaches me that we need to try to keep each other mentally healthy and I would take the fact that someone is in so much pain that they want to go as proof that they are not healthy and I need to help them. On the other hand if a person is not in pain and is just bored with life who I am to tell them that they need to stick it out? I do believe that I owe my loved ones an explanation. I also cant imagine ever deciding that I want to do suicide, much less actually doing it.

For all anyone knows, the children will gain more knowledge about life because of this event than if it never happened...even more, if the "never happens" leads to living with someone destroying a family with personal grief.

i sympathize with the suicide, they were clearly overwhelmed,

How so? Clearly they decided to not go on living, but I see no basis for the assumption that pain or lack of coping skills had to be in the mix. I remember years ago reading a first hand account of gangbangers in LA who said that they did not care if they lived or died because to them life was a drag/not fun/to little reward for too much work. I supposed we could by definition call anyone who does not agree that life is great and worth living depressed and in need of doctoring but I dont go that way. To me depression is a result of brain chemistry issues, the not wanting to live is not a reasonable rational conclusion. When people dont want to live because life to them is boring or not worth it on the merits I dont think we are talking about depression.

Frank Apisa wrote:

For all anyone knows, the children will gain more knowledge about life because of this event than if it never happened...even more, if the "never happens" leads to living with someone destroying a family with personal grief.

Suicide is not an act that i feel needs to be justified; as an act, it's a step beyond either justification or denigration. But to justify it, anyway, as a "teachable moment" is grotesque.

Surely if someone has 'brain chemistry issues' then their ability to be rational and come soundly to such a conclusion is very likely to be significantly hindered?

If someone wants to die - It's their choice - I have no issue with other folk's choices.