Someone is to stop Ukraine's fall into the hell!

@cicerone imposter,

That's just a test to prove you are a snitch follow me all the time. I posted three comments in a few minutes. You pick up two identicle one to issue an accusation within three minutes.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4h216RqIpCQ/U9LCsPzvMeI/AAAAAAAAAHg/DKCMjX-1Lik/w440-h269-p/follower3.png

this means my revelation is very correct. You are afrsid of it. The Feds even activate their asset to harass in internet. It also proves government spies are everywhere to monitor people.

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@katsung47,

Actually, I follow idiots who post nonsensical opinions without much in the way of facts or evidence. I also try to provide the reasons why, and when asked, will provide appropriate sources to back my opinion.

You, on the other hand, provides nearly 100% bull shyt WITHOUT PROVIDING CREDIBLE SOURCES. I'll follow you around like a pesky fly until you disappear from a2k. KEEP EM COMING! LOL

BTW, haven't you noticed yet that the majority of posters who reads your opinion arrived at the conclusion that you're a pro-Putin lackey?

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Why did the Separatists shoot down the airliner?

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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Why did the Separatists shoot down the airliner?

US wants to provoke a war in Ukraine between EU and Russia to weaken both sides. MH17 was selected to be the sacrifice. Most passengers in MH17 were Dutches. The motive is obvious to wage a hatred between European and Russia.

846. The divert flight path (7/28/2014)

Evidence shows that MH17 was arranged from its original flight path over to a war zone where it was shot down.

Quote:

MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed “False Flag”

By 21st Century Wire Global Research, July 25, 2014

MH17: A Doomed Flight Path

A Malaysian Airlines spokesman has already confirmed that, for some unknown reason, Kiev-based Ukrainian Air Traffic Control (ATC) ordered MH17 off of its original flight path along the international air route, known as L980.

Most likely, this order was given to pilots while MH17 was still in Polish air space. L980 is one of the most popular and most congested air routes in the world, as well as a key link between major international hubs in Europe, like London Heathrow, Amsterdam Schiphol, and Frankfurt, and Asian destinations, like Singapore, Mumbai, Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur.

As MH17 moved into Ukrainian air space, it was moved approximately 300 miles north of its usual route - putting it on a new course, flying directly over a war zone – a dangerous area that’s hosted a number of downed military craft over the previous 3 weeks.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag/5393317

Puppet Ukraine censored the air traffic control recordings.

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Kiev Censors MH17 Air Traffic Control Recordings
Security services confiscated tapes immediately after incident
by Paul Joseph Watson | July 22, 2014

Why has Kiev failed to release recordings from air traffic control tapes which could prove what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 17? Ukrainian security services confiscated the tapes immediately after the incident

http://www.infowars.com/kiev-censors-mh17-air-traffic-control-recordings/

The case is similar to the shooting down case of “KAL 007” 30 years ago. I talked about it at” 834. Small countries became sacrifice in US plots (5/23/2014)”

In 1983, a South Korea passenger airplane KAL 007 was shot down in Russia.

A few years ago, after former Soviet Union had collapsed, I came across with an analysis of that incident. The article said the Korean pilots couldn’t make such a big mistake to diverge the normal flight path. It alleged it was a plot that Pentagon used it to test air defense of Soviet Union. It was cold war time. I believe so. The original path was mostly over the ocean. The deviation track went over Kamchatka Peninsula. That is a big land. Pilots couldn’t miss it.

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1983: Korean Air Lines Flight 007 Shot Down By Soviet Fighter Plane

http://www.politics.ie/forum/history/215438-1-september-1983-korean-air-lines-flight-007-shot-down-soviet-fighter-plane.html

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Putin occupied Crimea because the Crimean people like him.
The Donetsk people like him, so why don't they ask him to occupy Donetsk?

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The Shrinking Cauldron – The Surrender of the 72nd Brigade

Posted by Gleb Bazov ⋅ August 4, 2014

http://slavyangrad.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/bumtbf6iqaapmqi-large.png?w=600&h=372

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/04/the-shrinking-cauldron/
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August 04, 2014
More than 400 Ukrainian troops have been allowed to cross into Russia after requesting sanctuary. It’s the largest, but not the first, case of desertion into Russia by Ukrainian soldiers involved in Kiev’s military crackdown in the east of the country.

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/2b/64/c0/00/-military-russia-refuge.si.jpg

http://slavija.proboards.com/thread/7043/ukraine?page=46

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@Toterion,

http://s27.postimg.org/v7hhocysz/204fdgd.jpg

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@Toterion,

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@Chimen,

Antiwar Protests Spreading in Ukraine as Government Wages All-Out War in the Southeast
August 3 2014

The protests are paralleled by a rise in Ukraine army desertions and refusals of men and women to heed conscription orders.
Army in trouble

Exact numbers of army desertions are not known and are the subject of considerable debate and counter-debate. This website report, for example, publishes a purported Ukraine army report saying that close to 3,500 soldiers deserted in the third week of July and that 1,600 soldiers died and 4,700 were wounded in that same time. Sources in Russia say the documents it cites are not authentic.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/84302/thread/1407113920/last-1407113920/Antiwar+Protests+Spreading+in+Ukraine+as+Government+Wages+All-Out+War+in+the+Southeast

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@katsung47,

Just out of curiosity, can you name one single country that is fond of Russia, besides Russia? Nevermind, it's meaningless to be fond of, the question should be 'can you name one country that trusts Russia?'

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@glitterbag,

Many countries may not be fond of Russia, but their intrusion into Ukraine without so much as a peep from the US and our allies proves that Russia has a free hand in their aggression into a sovereign country. Those embargoes against Russia seems ineffective.

After Ukraine, I wonder which country Putin will be going after.

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@cicerone imposter,

I hate to point out the obvious, but since Snowden handed over on a silver platter all the Order of Battle plans, every intercept point, and revealed exactly where all the US and NATO partners are and the size and the capacity of forces, I think it's bad timing.
Russia still has nuclear weapons, so do we, any suggestions on how you think the West should proceed? I think the US and Allied Forces are working very hard to redo all of the planning in order to restore a sense of security and national defense. So in the meantime, Putin can cause as much trouble as he wishes, I don't see an easy way short of declaring war, and even then, are we ready for another world conflict, is there anything or any equipment we have that hasn't already been revealed to Russia? We really dont know what Putin knows. The US isn't out, but to we have to regroup, it would be foolhardy to do anything else. In the mean time, the portions of the Continent that was once part of the Soviet Union needs to start thinking on their feet, and contain the threat from Putin on their own. Maybe we will luck out and find our own Snowdovich who feels as deep a need to betray Russia, as Ed Snowden did to the US.

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@glitterbag,

You wrote,

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I hate to point out the obvious, but since Snowden handed over on a silver platter all the Order of Battle plans, every intercept point, and revealed exactly where all the US and NATO partners are and the size and the capacity of forces, I think it's bad timing.

PLEASE PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR ALL YOUR CLAIMS.

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@cicerone imposter,

CI, let me know how much time you spent working for DOD and the Intell community. Better yet, get a security clearance and let the Senate intelligence committee brief you. I'm not sure what you assume the purpose and mission of US Military Forces and the intell community are tasked with, but read the Executive Directives that Truman enacted in 1952 for the overall mission of CIA, DIA and NSA. Or check out the National Geographic documentary on the NSA mission, and that might help.

Even if I still had access to intel community networks, it would violate my oath and would be considered mishandling of sensitive material, which is considered treasonous. But you can still access Janes All The Worlds Aircraft, Janes All the worlds lists of everything from missiles, weapons, you name it. I can point you to open sources, but that's all I can do.

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@glitterbag,

I never worked for 'DOD' but I received a Top Secret clearance to work with nuclear weapons when I was in the USAF in the late fifties. We were instructed about not talking about our jobs outside of the secured area where the nuclear weapons were stored and worked on. If caught, the penalty back then was $10 thousand and 10 years in prison.

The secrets we knew back then are now displayed at museums. The Nimtiz Museum in Texas now displays the bombs we worked with.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nuclear+bomb+display+at+nimitz+museum&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=5rYAVLjlF8f1iwKFv4GQDA&ved=0CB0QsAQ&biw=1466&bih=810

Our 'secret' was much different in that our work was not in conflict with our Constitution.

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@cicerone imposter,

If you were in the Air Force, you were working for the Department of Defense.

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@cicerone imposter,

I designed this logo for the 10th Aviation Depot Squadron at Ben Guerir AFB in Morocco in the late fifties when I was stationed there. This same design was used when I was stationed at Walker AFB in New Mexico with the 37th Aviation Depot Squadron.

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag215/Tak_Nomura/scan0001_zps7069f05c.jpg

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@glitterbag,

Of coarse you are correct and I am wrong; the USAF is under the DOD.
I'm getting more senile.

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@cicerone imposter,

CI, I truly believe you love your country, I love my country (we are talking about the same homeland) and I am not ignoring you or your beliefs. How's this, the next time you get to the East Coast, we will go to the spy museum, as well as NSA 's cryptologic museum. It's near HQ's, they also have on display artifacts from World War II, like the enigma machine.

I completely understand why Americans believe Ed Snowden accounts. It fosters fear and tells our citizens we are puppets, but that is Snowdens viewpoint. He isn't returning, I think he just got a 3 year extension to live in the workers paradise. Putin and his successors will indulge him for awhile, but everything has to reworked, Snowden can no longer provide solid secrets.

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Captured Kiev soldiers, military hardware on display in Donetsk

August 25 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5nqHyWnjI&list=TLyGqONZbRwKMhYV7rHIO6EbykFaB4wQZD

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