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[Math Game] The Four Fours

 
 
raprap
 
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Reply Sun 29 Dec, 2013 11:31 pm
31=!4+!4+!4+4

32=4*4+4*4

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raprap
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2013 09:55 am
33=4!+!4+4-4

34=4!+!4+4/4

35=4*!4-4/4

36=4*4*Sqrt(4)+4

Rqp
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raprap
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2013 10:18 am
37=4*!4+4/4

38=4*!4+4/Sqrt(4)

39=4/(.4)-4/4

40=4/(.4)+4-4

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markr
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2013 10:11 pm
@raprap,
4/.4 = 10, not 40
raprap
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2013 10:19 pm
@markr,
Oopsey.

40=4*!4+Sqrt(4*4)

Rap
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markr
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2013 10:19 pm
@markr,
39 = (4 + 4/sqrt(4))!! - !4
40 = !(4 + 4/4) - 4
markr
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2013 11:16 pm
@markr,
41 = S(4 + sqrt(4), 4) - 4!

Stirling numbers of the second kind (S(n,k)) are described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jan, 2014 05:56 pm
42=4!+4!-4-sqrt(4)

Rap
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jan, 2014 07:58 pm
43=4*!4+!4-sqrt(4)

44=4!+4!-Sqrt(4)-Sqrt(4)

Rap
markr
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jan, 2014 08:03 pm
@raprap,
45 = !4 * (4 + 4/4)
raprap
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:30 am
@markr,
46=4!*4!-4/Sqrt(4)

47=4!*4!-4/4 (trivial I know)

48=4!*4!-4+4 (more trivia)

48=4*(4+4+4)

Prime series (2,3,5,7,11,13....) 4th prime is 7, P(4)=7

49=P(4)*P(4)+4-4

Rap
markr
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 12:50 pm
@raprap,
I think you meant:
46 = 4! * sqrt(4) - 4/sqrt(4)
47 = 4! * sqrt(4) - 4/4
48 = 4! * sqrt(4) - 4 + 4
markr
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 12:53 pm
@markr,
49 = 4! * sqrt(4) + 4/4
markr
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 01:49 pm
@markr,
The successor function is described at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successor_function

For N > 4
N = N-4 instances of the successor function, S(x), + 4 - sqrt(4) - sqrt(4).

For example:
5 = S(4) + 4 - sqrt(4) - sqrt(4)
6 = S(S(4)) + 4 - sqrt(4) - sqrt(4)
7 = S(S(S(4))) + 4 - sqrt(4) - sqrt(4)

We can go as high as we wish.

This points out what I think is a problem with this sort of puzzle. I'd rather see exactly what is permitted, with anything not listed being disallowed.

Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:11 pm
@markr,
Perhaps we could just throw out the functions we know will allow us to generate everything.

50 = 4! + 4! + √4 + !(!√4)
51 = P(√4) * P(P(4)) + 4 - 4
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:18 pm
@markr,
markr wrote:

We can go as high as we wish.

This points out what I think is a problem with this sort of puzzle. I'd rather see exactly what is permitted, with anything not listed being disallowed.


People will lose interest if you use too many S's. Also, there's a limited number of characters allowed in one post. Twisted Evil

52 = 4 * P((P(√4))!) + 4 - 4
53 = 4 * P((P(√4))!) + 4 / 4
Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:36 pm
@Kolyo,
54 = (!4 +!4 + !4) * √4
55 = 44 / 4 * P(P(√4))
56 = (4 + 4) * [4 + P(√4)]
57 = P(√4) * P(4!!) + 4 - 4
58 = P(√4) * P(4!!) + 4 / 4
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Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:42 pm
59 = P(P(P(4))) + 4 - sqrt(4) - sqrt(4)
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:43 pm
@raprap,
raprap wrote:

31=!4+!4+!4+4

32=4*4+4*4

Rap

OK, I'm not familiar with the bang in front of the number.... Obviously !4=9, but what is the function?
Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jan, 2014 03:46 pm
@DrewDad,
It's called "derangement".

I first learned about it in this thread.

4! is the number of ways you can permute 4 objects.
!4 is the number of ways you can permute 4 objects and have them all end up in new places.
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