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Dresden's Frauenkirche restored after 1945 bombing

 
 
McTag
 
Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 04:35 am
Just wanted to bring this to your attention. I enjoyed the article. What do you think?

Back from the ruins: An £80m rebuilding of Dresden's jewel
The Frauenkirche in Dresden was reduced to rubble by bombing in 1945. Yesterday, the last stone block was put in place for the reconstruction of the German baroque masterpiece
. Jay Merrick and Tony Paterson report
14 April 2004


It was one of the most stunning buildings in one of Europe's most beautiful cities. But, on a night of destruction in 1945, both were turned to rubble.

Yet, almost 60 years later, Dresden's historic Frauenkirche is back. As cheering crowds looked on, masons mortared the final stone into a 78-metre spire, marking the completion of the £80m external rebuilding of the baroque church.

Full article here:

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=511222
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 04:47 am
Aww . . . there's no pix . . . i wanted to see a pick-chur . . . well, i'm sure Walter will help us out with that as soon as he sees this.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 09:50 am
Me too, I want to see it - please.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 09:55 am
I was thinking the same thing re a photo. Seems like that would have been a good adjunct to that article, it being about a fabulous building and all. Perhaps the editors thought otherwise...
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 10:03 am
There was a photograph supplied with the original article in the newspaper of course.
I was disappointed they missed it out on the electronic version.
I will see what I can do- (and also share Setanta's faith in Walter. He will doubtless come up with something appropriate when he reads this).

Meantime, take a look here

http://www.frauenkirche-dresden.org/

although you may have to persevere a bit.

And here: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/dres/dre137.jpg

McT
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 11:10 am
That's impressive! Thanks, McTag. I know it's a weakness on my part, but the destruction of a building like that somehow seems sadder than all the loss of life. We're all doomed anyhow, but buildings like that should survive so others may enjoy them...
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 01:55 pm
Well, since I had to re-install my system, it took some time.
(Actually, I wanted to post a similar thread yesterday.)

Photos:
http://www.dresden.de/bilder/sehenswertes/gebaeude/336_collage_frauenkir.jpg
nice collage

http://www.dresden.de/bilder/dwtpm/336-0302Frauenkirche_quer.jpg

Some weeks ago

http://morgenpost.berlin1.de/archiv2004/040414/titel/82092.jpg

The wooden steepletop (?) will be fixed on Juin 22.

http://morgenpost.berlin1.de/archiv2004/040414/titel/82093.jpg

Last stone adjusted on Tuesday


http://www.mz-web.de/ks/images/mdsBild/1081362613853l.jpg

Inside view



As McTag already said: there are/have been a couple of photos in the printed media ...

Military band concerts (two in my county the next few weeks) as well as those by philharmonic orchestras, exhibitions, events etc heled and help for the reconstruction.
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Piffka
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 01:58 pm
First time I heard about the incendiary bombing of Dresden was in Slaughterhouse Five. It was certainly not a large element of the history of WWII in my school. I am especially glad to see that the city of Dresden was willing to do whatever necessary to rebuild the original church. How awful if they'd chosen to take low bids, transformed it into a modern church or any one of the many less expensive possibilities. It sounds like a monumental project and looks like a magnificent structure... one bound to encourage tourists to visit.

If only if were possible to resurrect all the people who lost their lives....
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 02:03 pm
Tourism in Dresden
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2004 03:58 pm
What good pictures, Walter. I knew you could be relied on. Thank you. A very worthy subject. Have you visited the building site yet?
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 12:57 pm
Walter: are they still discussing in Germany whether the allied bombings in 1945 were justified? I heard that there was a lot to do about it some time ago, but I did not follow the discussion. I talked about this with some friends, and they simply said: it was war.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 01:22 pm
Here, Rick, you might have an interest in this thread:

Was Allied bombing of Germany Jan - April 1945 a war crime?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 01:59 pm
McTag wrote:
A very worthy subject. Have you visited the building site yet?


a) Indeed. b) No, haven't been in Dresden yet (only passed it on the autobahn).
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 17 Apr, 2004 02:02 pm
An interesting aside: British donors paid for the new cross that will adorn the top of the church, while the man who made it is the son of a British pilot who took part in the 1945 bombing.
http://www.bu-dresden.de/Die%20Stadt%20Dresden/Touristenstadt/frauen1.jpg








Found this article:

The Healing of Dresden's Heart
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Sun 18 Apr, 2004 12:42 pm
Thanks for the link Setanta!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 04:49 am
The "Turmhaube" (church tower hood) will be set this afternoon at 14:00 GMT.

This event can be seen live with the webcam here
http://www.mdr.de/frauenkirche

(Click on the upper pic in the middle)
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 02:07 pm
Well I visited the webcam but it wasn't doing much. I was an hour late, unfortunately. But nothing was moving. Maybe they had a tea-break.

I see from the Ceefax that the Duke of Kent did the presentation and speechifying.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 02:42 pm
Quote:
Dresden church gets British cross
By Lars Rischke

DRESDEN, Germany (Reuters) - A British-built cross has been hoisted onto Dresden's Frauenkirche cathedral in a gesture of reconciliation that coincides with new controversy over whether the 1945 Allied bombing of the city was justified.


The giant golden cross was built by the son of a British bomber pilot who took part in the World War Two raid, which killed an estimated 35,000 people and destroyed 80 percent of the city, including the Frauenkirche (Church of Our Lady).
http://wwwi.reuters.com/images/2004-06-22T140405Z_01_GRI250494_RTRUKOP_1_PICTURE0.jpg
Left in rubble for half a century, the Baroque bell-shaped church has undergone extensive reconstruction since German reunification.

Tens of thousands gathered in Dresden's historic centre to the sound of a brass band and choir on Tuesday, to watch a crane gingerly lift a copper roof topped with the cross on a golden orb onto the church's main tower.

The seven-metre (23 feet) tall cross completes the church's outer shell and restores the city's pre-war skyline.

British supporters of the reconstruction, due to be completed in late 2005, see the cross as another symbol of reconciliation weeks after Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder became the first German leader to attend D-Day memorial ceremonies.

The Duke of Kent, who heads a British foundation helping to rebuild the church, told the ceremony in German: "This is a wonderful project that unites people who were once enemies in a strong and lasting friendship."

The raid, just three months before the end of the war, caused a firestorm that left one of Europe's most beautiful Baroque cities in ruins. So many were killed that piles of charred bodies had to be burned in public squares rather than buried.

NEW DEBATE OVER BOMBINGS

The new cross, an exact replica of the 18th-century original, was designed by British blacksmith Alan Smith, whose father Frank flew a Lancaster bomber in the first wave of attacks.

"I think it is so moving that the cross was made by the British son of one of the bombers. I think that is great," said Gertraude Preusser, who as a 26-year-old in 1945 stood on a hill watching her home city burn after the raid.

Yet others in Germany see the Allied bombing campaign as a war crime.

Opposition lawmakers have called for a national memorial day for the 635,000 civilians killed in bombing raids across Germany amid a new debate over whether it is justified to speak of German victims of World War Two.

It was long considered impolite, unwise and even dangerously nationalistic for Germans to question whether Allied bombings in World War Two were necessary or legitimate.

But the taboo was shattered last year with a book, "The Fire - Germany and the Bombardment 1940-1945", by historian Joerg Friedrich, which condemns the attacks as war crimes.

Many British historians have criticised Friedrich for what they call a lopsided narrative that fails to reflect that Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany was first to launch air strikes on civilians in Warsaw, Rotterdam, Belgrade, London and Coventry.

Most recently, a new book by British historian Frederick Taylor, "Dresden: Tuesday, February 13, 1945", contends that as Germany's seventh largest city it was a legitimate strategic target with an industrial centre contributing to the war effort.

Taylor argues that the number of dead -- frequently cited in excess of 100,000 -- was greatly exaggerated by Hitler's Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels, and that the actual death toll was likely to be between 25,000 and 40,000.
Source
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 02:45 pm
The link for the video from today is here:

http://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/sachsen/1446013.html
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jun, 2004 11:13 pm
Thanks Walter.

The British smith did well, nicht wahr?
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