@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:Quote:No it isn't. I can read Mickey-Mouse comics, and the book and my mind will come together, but that doesn't make talking mice a reality.
Tell that to people reading the bible.
I
have read the Bible, twice, and both times my experience with it was the same as that with Mickey Mouse. I read the stories, book and mind connected, but that didn't make it real. Mickey Mouse, Jesus Christ, poteydo, potuhto.
Cyracuz wrote:Quote:Exactly. That's what it takes for us to consider it real. But demonstrating it as a fact isn't what makes it real.
Would you care to elaborate on that distinction?
Not really. I think it pretty much explains itself.
Cyracuz wrote:Quote:According to Merriam-Webster's dictionary, reality is "the true situation that exists; the real situation; something that actually exists or happens; a real event, occurrence, situation, etc." Other dictionaries offer similar definitions. They are inconsistent with your view of reality in that the observer's consciousness doesn't play into them, whereas this consciousness is crucial to your concept of reality.
Extrapolating some unobserveable or unobserved reality from it is an act of faith. No amount of telling me this isn't so will change that.
I'm not just telling you, I'm giving you evidence. Bacteria caused the Ancient Greeks to be sick, but the Ancient Greeks did not observe this reality. Electrons magnetized the needles of the medieval Chinese's compasses, but the medieval Chinese had not observed electrons yet. Forget faith! History abounds with
evidence of realities unobserved by the people who lived in them.