neologist
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2014 12:20 pm
@timur,
I'm reminded of Johnny Cash lyrics. . . Something like this:
"Everybody wants the kingdom. They just don't want God in it."
So yeah, Jesus would be most unwelcome.
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worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2014 12:56 pm
@timur,
Look Timur,

I am not the one who creates future events....I did not make any of it up. If you believe the Bible, which I am not sure that you do or do not, it is all written there. If you are serious about learning something that will come to pass read the Book of Revelation and your eyes will be open to the future events.

I hate no one and believe that murder is morally incorrect. I am not supporting the death of anyone. I am simply telling you what the scripture says about what will happen. If you don't believe it that is your prerogative. Just don't throw off on me that I am a hater or a supporter of the death of anyone.

Neo,
None of this is unfounded--you for one should know what the scripture says about the return of Jesus Christ. The problem you face is that you are still confused on who He is.
neologist
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2014 01:03 pm
@worldtraveler24,
The unfounded statement I was referring to was your assertion about the holy 'ghost'
Your confusion about the relationship between God and his firstborn creation is another issue.
timur
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2014 01:15 pm
@worldtraveler24,
I cannot demand you, a Bible lover, to follow some logic.

You believe in the bible and what it says.

It says Jesus will come back to kill the enemies of Israel and you post that.

Why would you say that you think differently from the bible and cite it every minute?

Hence you are a supporter of the death of the enemies of Israel...

The god of the bible is a nasty, vengeful, murderous god..
worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2014 01:15 pm
@neologist,
Neo,

I respect you greatly for your graceful manner. I do think quite highly of you as a poster!

I will admit that we both have differing views on many of the principles of the scripture.

Read Romans 8: 9--This is the foundation upon which I made the statement that without the Holy Ghost you are none of His...if you read that differently let me know your thoughts. To me it is quite clear!

I in no wise belittle the relationship that you have with Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Ghost/Spirit.

I for one do have to disagree with your ideology.

I believe in ONE and that makes it quite clear to me to whom I worship: JESUS the only God in flesh!

Nonetheless, I appreciate a valid discussion on the Biblical precepts.
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worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2014 01:20 pm
@timur,
I don't think differently than what the Bible says. There is just one thing that you are missing here: I am not GOD.

God can do as He so well pleases. I am nothing more than one of His created beings. I don't make the rules--HE does. That is my point and hopefully that will clarify my position to you.

You seem to be a relatively rational person...even if you don't believe in GOD can't you put a bit of sugar in your lemonade?
Enaj
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2014 06:32 pm
@worldtraveler24,
There must not be anyone that has the Holy Ghost......after all , Do you know anyone that can not lust?
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MWal
 
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2014 06:50 pm
@worldtraveler24,
God says the whole world is in your hands. It has to be reality to your pleasure.. Your his eternal friend.
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thus
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 02:09 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
from a secert book not many people have heard of,
their is a story about how jesus was tempted by the devil and took his offer to have a kingdom, and he was to rule rome. thus us was said that the devil killed him and his kingdom that he got was the break of roman empire and the adopation of christ in roman relgions. the devil a trickster indeed
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 02:12 pm
@thus,
But when Rome turned to Christianity, wasn't that a great victory for Jesus?
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 05:17 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
...But when Rome turned to Christianity, wasn't that a great victory for Jesus?
You're kidding, right?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 06:54 pm
Quote:
Romeo said: But when Rome turned to Christianity, wasn't that a great victory for Jesus?
Neologist asked: You're kidding, right?

It's common knowledge mate-
WIKI-"While the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great (reigned 306–337) ruled Rome, Christianity began to become the dominant religion of the Roman Empire"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great_and_Christianity
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 07:17 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Are you saying the perverted 'christianity' instituted by Constantine was/is a victory for the truth?
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 07:20 pm
@neologist,
I think your monitor might have been playing up and made you miss my post mate, here, let me try again-

WIKI-"While the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great (reigned 306–337) ruled Rome, Christianity began to become the dominant religion of the Roman Empire"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great_and_Christianity
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 07:48 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Constantine took the disgusting religion of the pagans and stuck a new label on it.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 07:55 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Constantine took the disgusting religion of the pagans and stuck a new label on it.

And why would he want to do that?
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2014 12:54 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
It was a power thing
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2014 02:22 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Romeo said: But when Rome turned to Christianity, wasn't that a great victory for Jesus?
Neologist asked: You're kidding, right?

It's common knowledge mate-
WIKI-"While the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great (reigned 306–337) ruled Rome, Christianity began to become the dominant religion of the Roman Empire"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great_and_Christianity



Yeah.

And while Rome was the most powerful nation on the planet for 500 years while pagan (and at its most debauched)...while it made huge advancements in law, government, art, science, education, commerce, architecture...

...within 50 years of becoming Christian...it fell.

In fact, the advent of Christianity heralded 800 years of such western-world backwardness it is still referred to as, "The Dark Ages."

(Granted, this is a Readers Digest version of the history...but it is closer to the truth of what happened than most Christians would like to accept.)
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2014 09:22 am
Quote:
Frank Apisa said: ...within 50 years of becoming Christian...it [Rome] fell.
In fact, the advent of Christianity heralded 800 years of such western-world backwardness it is still referred to as, "The Dark Ages."

1- Rome used to be a barbaric warlike state invading every country in sight, but after becoming Christian they stopped doing that..Smile
2- The term 'Dark Ages' is just an urban myth. A better term would be "The Quiet Ages" because people were at last free to make advances in science and astronomy etc without the nagging fear of getting invaded..Smile
WIKI- "many modern scholars who study the era tend to avoid the term "Dark Ages" altogether, finding it misleading and inaccurate"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2014 09:32 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Rolling Eyes Exclamation
 

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