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littlek
 
Reply Sat 3 Apr, 2004 10:25 am
This year marks the 50th since his death. It's been just about 100 years since he proposed his first theory of relativity. This month, a satelite is slated to launch that will test the theory that the pull of a body's gavitational force distorts the space and time around said object.

Here's a link at the BBC
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Sat 3 Apr, 2004 11:07 am
isn't science amazing;
Einstien has been dead for fifty years, and now they are going to sent his balls into space to test gravity! Shocked
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colorbook
 
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Reply Sat 3 Apr, 2004 02:46 pm
Very interesting, littlek. I hope these tests deliver outstanding results
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littlek
 
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Reply Sat 3 Apr, 2004 02:50 pm
BoGoWo wrote:
isn't science amazing;
Einstien has been dead for fifty years, and now they are going to sent his balls into space to test gravity! Shocked


Ha! Perfect spheres that they are!


Colorbook - I hope so too. I'm not even sure what they want to be studying, exactly.
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satt fs
 
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Reply Sat 3 Apr, 2004 03:51 pm
You bet. It will yield positive results.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Sat 3 Apr, 2004 03:59 pm
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The unmanned, Earth-orbiting probe is designed to test two of Einstein's predictions about the nature of space and time, and how the Earth and other bodies warp and twist the fabric that combines the two.
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SqUeAkz
 
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Reply Mon 5 Apr, 2004 03:02 pm
Yes, I heard about this. I also heard they once somehow tried it on people, and it some say it worked, others say the people went insane. This took place in the 50's and the two subject that they tested on came back into the 50's as hippies, anyone hear of this?
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Mon 5 Apr, 2004 03:04 pm
Sounds vaguely familiar.
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SqUeAkz
 
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Reply Mon 5 Apr, 2004 03:16 pm
http://www.physics.northwestern.edu/classes/2001Spring/135-1/Projects/1/Einstein.htm

Click the link.

Could this have something to do with it?


Also click the link on Blackholes, Wormholes, and Cosmic Strings. Look at how they inturpet a blackhole, does this mean we could possibly be leaving in another Dimension?
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Apr, 2004 03:29 pm
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But if a traveler were to travel into space and back to earth a distance of 1000 light years, traveling at 99.995% the speed of light, they would have aged only 10 years while 1000 years had elapsed on earth. Therefore, special relativity dictates that traveling forward in time is entirely possible.
Just flat cool!
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husker
 
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Reply Mon 5 Apr, 2004 03:33 pm
The immensity of the Universe! Knowing the view we have of the planets and our sky, the light and energy waves that bombard our planet can be up to millions of years old - it can just make you feel a little insignificant
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g day
 
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Reply Thu 8 Apr, 2004 09:24 pm
Up to almost 14 billion year old light or background radiation actually!
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BoGoWo
 
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Reply Fri 9 Apr, 2004 09:00 am
and, if you want 'amazing', think about the fact that the things you see in the sky some of which can be 14 billion (U.S.) light years away, exist at the same time as we do (whatever 'time' is)!
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mmattin1
 
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Reply Tue 27 Apr, 2004 11:14 pm
How reasonable is it to assume that there may be different time dimensions? I have read about this grandfather clause and can not shake the idea. If you are traveling at x speed that is faster than the speed of light towards an object with an object observing you from a perpendicular from the object that you are traveling towards (forming a triangle between your starting point, the destination point, and the observation point). Then you travel from the destination point to the observation point at a speed that is 2x the speed you traveled from starting point the destination point. Would the observation point not see you traveling from starting to destination at the same time you were next to observation point? Putting you in two places at the same time?
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 28 Apr, 2004 06:45 am
Here's a very nice site with well written summary information on the newest discoveries and the possible implications: Beyond Einstein
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 28 Apr, 2004 09:23 am
mmattin1 wrote:
How reasonable is it to assume that there may be different time dimensions? I have read about this grandfather clause and can not shake the idea. If you are traveling at x speed that is faster than the speed of light towards an object with an object observing you from a perpendicular from the object that you are traveling towards (forming a triangle between your starting point, the destination point, and the observation point). Then you travel from the destination point to the observation point at a speed that is 2x the speed you traveled from starting point the destination point. Would the observation point not see you traveling from starting to destination at the same time you were next to observation point? Putting you in two places at the same time?

It is not possible for any material object to travel accelerate to the speed of light, so the question is meaningless, since you specify vehicles travelling faster than light.
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mmattin1
 
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Reply Wed 28 Apr, 2004 10:34 am
to say that light travel is an impossibility because we can not accomplish this feat now, doesn't mean that it is an impossibility. What about antimatter?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 28 Apr, 2004 11:23 am
mmattin1 wrote:
to say that light travel is an impossibility because we can not accomplish this feat now, doesn't mean that it is an impossibility. What about antimatter?

I'm not saying that it's impossible because we can't accomplish it now. I'm saying it's impossible, because it is proven theoretically in the Special Theory of Relativity. What about antimatter?
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 28 Apr, 2004 12:49 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
It is not possible for any material object to travel accelerate to the speed of light, so the question is meaningless, since you specify vehicles travelling faster than light.


This is correct of course. However, we should point out that there is a big difference between trying to accelerate a massive object up to, and past light speed (which is impossible), and proposing a particle which comes into existence and 'lives' in a state which exceeds light speed (which has been proposed in theory). These things are called Tachyons.

The truth is that most physicists consider tachyons to be a sign of pathological behaviour in field theories, and the interest in them among the wider public stems mostly from the fact that they are used so often in science fiction. More information on Tachyons can be found here: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html#19

Mmattin1, the reason you can't accelerate an object to light speed (or beyond) is that mass and energy are related such that mass approaches infinity as it approaches light speed. Think of it like pushing a boulder through space, but as it gets faster and faster, it also gets bigger and heavier (more massive). And since it gets heavier, you have to push harder and harder to make it go any faster. Near the end, as you get close to light speed, the boulder starts to get ridiculously large and heavy... planet size... star size... solar system size... galaxy size... and beyond. Eventually it gets so massive that you can't acquire the energy necessary to push it any more.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Wed 28 Apr, 2004 12:52 pm
Completely correct in all respects, but the question was about a manned vehicle of some kind.
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