if it were to turn out that the existence and content of our deepest moral beliefs is generated by nature and nature turns out to be run by blind mutation and blind natural selection, would that fact alone undermine your moral beliefs?
Most assuredly it would, MW, though few of us are able to escape
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Cipherius
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Sat 27 Jul, 2013 01:19 pm
@mwurgler,
Morality, at least to me, is a mutation in Humans. It seems like we are the only animals unwilling to kill when necessary. Morality seems like a weakness. A weakness gained from generations of stagnation of the Human race. Just my two cents.
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Lustig Andrei
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Sat 27 Jul, 2013 01:29 pm
@mwurgler,
mwurgler wrote:
if it were to turn out that the existence and content of our deepest moral beliefs is generated by nature and nature turns out to be run by blind mutation and blind natural selection, would that fact alone undermine your moral beliefs?
Interesting point. I'm sure my friend Logicus would agree as well. Maybe. I agree with you at least. Why does philosophy need to have such long and arduous arguments and eloquence, when all it needs is to get to the point. Simple, and blunt.
Interesting point. I'm sure my friend Logicus would agree as well. Maybe. I agree with you at least. Why does philosophy need to have such long and arduous arguments and eloquence, when all it needs is to get to the point. Simple, and blunt.
Because if it did that, it would put thousands upon thousands of PhD candidates out of business.
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JLNobody
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Sat 27 Jul, 2013 01:59 pm
@mwurgler,
Your position on morality could gain considerable support from the work of Nietzsche.
Morality, Logic, is a purely relative issue. Doubtless Hitler Youth considered the roundup and slaughter of Jews to be highly moral. Likewise the pious Christian who hangs up Porky by his hind legs then cuts his throat so he bleeds to death before slaughtering and eating him
If Porky were in charge we'd be kept in muddy pens while he'd view intelligence as a vice. He might use us as food but doubt if he'd first torture us
True. One of my teachers had a discussion about morality with my class, and the idea of, "Are evil and good the same thing?" I offered that they were not even the same, but all relative. He quickly put that down by creating an example of himself brutally murdering a small puppy. After that, my class was so convinced that good and evil were separate and real, I found it futile to keep pressing the matter.
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