Is the source of "goodness" an Absolute, or choice?

BVo that's very well put indeed for I've long maintained the value of intuition is underappreciated

Especially hereabout with the scroller poised to find an OP he can disagree with, pick apart, and soundly criticize

Intuition being under appreciated, I agree.
Peace

Both.

I suspect this is religious bullshit, but we'll have to wait to see.

Interesting assumption since nothing in the question suggests "religion" or "religious". The foul language denotes some repressed anger, and that's OK. I note also the hesitation to commit to an answer regarding "goodness".
Peace

But why. who, not me surely

Jim that was my reaction too. Since the subject has come up, however, allow me a fling at it

As if you could stop me

One striking feature of Intuition Jim is its involvement or parallel with religion. Both suggest there's some remarkable quality of the Universe only subliminally entertained, insisting there's more to the Whole Schebang than the mere random, meaningless bouncing of objects off one another and winding up as huge number of various-size particles accelerating away from one another forever whilst approaching a temp of absolute zero; the suggestion that She is trying to tell us something by permitting the evolution of a creature that almost understands it all; since without us to appreciate what's happening, somehow almost unthinkable

….the ultimate q, "Why should there be anything at all," the state of nothingness being much easier to contemplate

…except of course to the inevitable skeptic, ill-tempered critic, so unsatisfied with his everyday life, feeling so powerless, searching everywhere for an innocent victim, drawn to the Internet forum for the apparent power and anonymity it affords

Why thank you Jim, a little encouragement always appreciated in this otherwise convoluted dysphoria, an innuendo of dolorous cognitive miasma

Verily

Sheepishly confess, Jim, that neither did I address this vital q

….though partly 'cause I'm not quite sure I understand it. "The source of goodness" seems to imply as a given that there is such as thing as goodness. Assuming there is goodness, then, is its source absolute

The immediate source of what you and I might call "goodness" is of course you and me but by "absolute," I suppose you mean "ultimate", suggesting a kind of gift from a sort of abstract entity, leading us in turn, I suppose, into religion. So am I on the right track

Keep that "peace" bullshit to yourself. The assumption is not unwarranted because the title suggests religious content: "Is the source of "goodness" an Absolute, or choice?" The concept of goodness, that such a thing exists, is a subjective contention. If one were to allege that there is an absolute source of goodness, that at least treads on the heels of religion, if it is not actually a religious contention. The title is awkward, too. The source of "goodness" a choice? What kind of choice would that be?

I'm willing to stipulate that this is just hippy-dippy, new age spiritualist song and dance, rather than religion, if that is more comfortable for you.

I just noticed, another of those clowns who thinks that anyone who disagrees must be angry. Bullshit is not "foul" language--bulls exist, they ****, and what they **** stinks. What you are attempting to peddle here stinks just as badly.

More or less, thought I, my own implication; though the way Jim has worded the title seems to invite us, for the sake of argument, to assume that it does. However if absolute then maybe purely objective, as would the panthiest insist Her very existence

Jim might subsequently shed some additional light here

(forgive unpardonable punning, atrocious)

Note, not yet into "choice" since we've hardly resolved "absolute"

However there's a difference between subjectiveness and abstraction. The latter varies from concrete at one end (a rock, say) to ultimately transcendental at the other (God maybe). However the degree of Her abstraction might allow Her denial as a perfectly logical conclusion depending of course on one's meaning of "exists"

Costco for instance might be thought of as concrete even by the fuming skeptic. Though closer to the concrete end, can after all defined merely as a collection of humanoids muttering to one another whilst moving objects from one location to another

Since the idea of goodness is subjective, it really doesn't matter whether the individual bases their
idea based on religion or not.

But I had interpreted Jim's title implying it isn't

For example if I ask, "Is the color of my .22 rifle butt really beige" then you musgt assume I have such a gun

Doubtless he will soon clarify

This joker didn't come here for a discussion or a debate. He asserts that he is a teacher, and a good one, no less. He "knows" the answer. Apparently he intends to run some kind of game, a guessing game, in which people assert that goodness consists in this or that, and has its origins here or there--then he will, from the depths of his wisdom, correct people's errors.

Snake oil . . .

I can’t remember the other OP that was posting similar threads a few months ago. The avatar was a man and his Asian wife, claimed they were from Maine, started posted the same sort of nonsense. I’ll track him down

That would be interesting. I had thought of doing a literal word search to see if he's touting this bullshit elsewhere, but really, he's not worth the time and effort.

Since the subject is goodness, I'll stick with my original opinion.

Interestingly, some years back, I was seeking to construct a Psychology for the Whole Human Being, and during that time period, I Intuited the phrase "Neutral Spiritual Energy", which I reduced to "NSgy". My point is in reference to your terms: " the state of nothingness being much easier to contemplate...".
My amazement at the time was that NSgy would be thought of as "nothing" to the typical thinker personality. That is, Neutral to me was neither this nor that. And since there is no Neutral on this physical plane, what is Neutral? After a couple years dealing with my new Intuition of NSgy, I realized that NSgy was the Energy of Spirituality. And no, this cannot be proven.
Peace

Well reasoned, sir. And you help me clarify what it is I am asking?
Indeed, as you surmise, I do not believe good is an Absolute, and yet, its source is the MIND, and the MIND is as absolute as anything gets within the Creation. If, as I believe, NSgy is the Energy of Spirituality, God is not "good", God is NSgy, and thus, good is not absolute but relative to evil.
I also make a rather sharp distinction between religion and Spirituality. Religion is of Man, and thus relative at best. Spirituality, on the other hand, is an Absolute, permanent, and
"the" primal Energy, which we call God.
Peace

What is interesting in your rant in an attempt to rationalize your habit of using profanity. Since written words cannot "stink" [save the odor comes from ones own computer?], the attempt is inept. And by "Source" I mean God. By "source" relative to "goodness", I was referring to the MIND. My only reference to religion is to point out a difference between religion and Spirituality. I have no interest in religion.
And, as for my use of Peace, it is my wish that others might experience Peace in their lives.