@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:a fact gos on whether you "believe it or not",
When a fact is given enough evidence and proof that its being fits within a standard theory
Belief is irrelevant.
It may be
irrelevant,
but the belief
EXISTS, whether it is relevant or not.
For instance, I 've heard that respected scientists
stoutly declared that heavier-than-air flight was
IMPOSSIBLE
shortly b4 the Wright Bros. Kitty Hawk flight.
Thay
BELIEVED what thay said.
Thay were not trying to disgrace themselves
in front of the world and in front of their colleagues.
farmerman wrote:We know how fermentation occurs via yeast, we dont "believe in it",
The hell u
DON'T!
If I denied fermentation, u 'd call me a liar.
( Yeah, I know that u 'd
prove it,
but u 'd call me a liar anyway and u'd
STILL believe in fermentation. )
farmerman wrote:Belief is a mere tool, absent evidence.
Thats how it is in science
A yeast will ferment sugar whether or not there is a mind to "Believe" it.
Youve confused the popular context of "belief"
Its sorta risen to the level of what a theory is in science.
Most people think that theory means mere speculation, it doesnt.
Fermentation happens, I try to understand how it does all that via the intercession of yeast.
Think about my sig line. Its actually true that a mechanism of a theory is first "Believed,"
however, when its emplaced within the theory, its a fact.
Facts are still
believed or dismissed.
farmerman wrote:LEMME put it into something you can relate to
You "believe" that the present dministration is trying to take your guns, you dont know that is fact nor do you understand how.
You KNOW that you own a gun (or two). I believe that you own a gun because I have no further evidence but your say so.
I know that he 'd rob me
of my guns
IF HE WERE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT HE CAN'T.
A man's reality can be self-defined, according to his belief.
Consider hypnotists who 've had volunteers from their audiences
mount the stage and (in a state of hypnosis) be told that a coin
resting on their hands is
red-hot, with resultant blisters.
The War Dept. has sent false reports of death
to soldiers' mothers at home, who believe it
until the alleged casualty disproves it, showing that he remains intact.
U can miscalculate your arithmetic
and
believe a false reality based upon that error,
until it has been identified.
