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We Evolved To Eat Meat, But How Much Is Too Much?

 
 
Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 10:03 am
We Evolved To Eat Meat, But How Much Is Too Much?
June 25, 2012
by Allison Aubrey - Morning Edition

Paleo diet promoter John Durant digs into some ribs.

You won't catch John Durant in a tie. Shoes are optional, too. He has traded cubicle life for something a little wild: Promoting the diet and lifestyle of our ancestors from the paleolithic era. He's blogging and writing a book about his approach.

"For millions of years, we didn't have an obesity problem because we ate foods that our metabolism was adapted to," Durant says — foods such as root vegetables, tubers, fish and, of course, red meat.

"We were active and lived a healthy lifestyle," he says. Durant is one of many folks following the popular meat-laden paleo diet. He packs his freezer with deer meat and has found lots of places near his home in Manhattan to buy marrow bones and organ meats, as well as paleo-friendly barbecue joints for a meal out.

But modern medicine tells us that too much meat is bad for us, so what's a consumer to do?

During a workout at a CrossFit gym, a gathering spot for lots of paleo-enthusiasts, Durant told me it's no longer a challenge for him to avoid the onslaught of bagels and pizza at every street corner. The paleo approach is to eliminate grains and processed food, which are relatively new to the human diet. And, as a result, Durant says, he no longer gets the spikes and dips in his moods, and he feels better.

Now, everyone from the American Cancer Society to the American Heart Association and popular food writers such as Mark Bittman tells us to eat less red meat.

But Durant says it's a meat-based diet that was fundamental to early human development. (Check out our tongue-in-cheek Time Traveler's Cookbook: Meat Lover's Edition for more on this.)

My colleague Chris Joyce has reported on how a meat-based diet helped make us smarter.

And paleoanthropologist John Hawks at the University of Wisonsin, Madison, agrees: "We definitely evolved to eat meat."

"When we look at the fossils of early Homo [sapien], we see this immediate increase in the size of the body and also increase in the size of the brain," Hawks explains.

But that was then. Very few cavemen lived long enough to get heart disease or cancer. These are the reasons we're told to limit red meat consumption now.

"It really began in a big way in the Framingham study in the 1950s," says Michael Thun, an epidemiologist with the American Cancer Society.

"It [the study] found a relationship between total cholesterol and heart disease," Thun says. Over the years, there has been debate about whether high cholesterol is a cause or simply a marker of higher heart disease risks. But studies like this one helped raise the red flag about high-cholesterol foods, such as red meat.

Then, the evidence started mounting that people who ate daily servings of red meat increased their risks of developing certain cancers. For colon cancer, studies show that people who eat the most have about double the risk compared with people who eat the least red meat.

"That's been found in lots of studies," says Thun, "so it's pretty well-accepted."

Paleo enthusiast John Durant says he has thought about these studies and has heard the health experts, but he's not worried. He says lots of the people in these big epidemiological studies are sedentary and overweight.

He may be eating more red meat than the experts recommend, but he believes his paleo lifestyle, which includes running barefoot in Central Park, helps keep him thin, active and healthy. And he's not alone — the movement is attracting some medical professionals.

Because there are no studies of people who've been following the paleo diet, Thun says, it's hard to evaluate. "There's just not been enough people eating one kind of paleolithic diet to tell."

As for the rest of us who want to know how much red meat is too much, the best evidence suggests that cutting back to two to three servings a week is a good guide.
 
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 10:44 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
You'd think he'd include some things like squirrel, rabbit, and the like.

Somehow I think those were much more of a staple than domesticated cattle....
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 12:07 pm
@DrewDad,
You're right. Imagine yourself right now in a forest in the Eastern United States. What would you hunt if you had a rifle or a bow and quiver full of arrows? Deer? What are you going to do with all that meat?

A rabbit every couple of days and lots of poke salad.

Joe(The reason people moved in those days was that the food moved)Nation
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 12:21 pm
@Joe Nation,
And don't forget the lowly grub. I bet our ancestors got lots of protein from those....
gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 12:36 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
You don't need to be an evolutionite or evoloser to comprehend that Elaine Morgan is right about humans originally living in water. That says that the original human diet was some combination of shellfish and fruit.

The basic Neanderthal diet was 100% large-animal meat, but we are not related to them. I mean, there's no reason why humans can't live on meat from large animals, but it's not our original diet.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 01:01 pm
@DrewDad,
Grubs and crayfish, turtles....I bet they could noodle out a catfish or two. Meanwhile, there would have to be a lot of gathering being done of what we now call wild cabbage and lettuce along with carrots, yams, squash (major source of food for the AmerIndian), prickly pear, blueberries, gooseberies, raspberries, mulberries and I forget, did I mention acorns and grinding them into flour??

No human diet has ever been 100% large animal meat. Never.

Joe(we is [and so was Uncle Neander] omnivories) Nation
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 04:40 pm
They ain't no such thing as too much . . .
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 25 Jun, 2012 04:51 pm
Me like food. Meat, veggies, fruit, berries, seeds, grains - Just don't put any soy, eggplant or okra on my plate.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 09:25 am
@edgarblythe,
What is wrong with you, Edgar?
Eggplant son mucho delicioso con queso y (crap, I can't remember how to say "tomato sauce and peppers'. )

AND
okra?!
Well, come on, if we don't eat it, it going to eat all of us.

Joe(pass the chili garlic and the ground bay leaf)Nation
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 09:52 am
Okra is a nasty business . . .
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 10:02 am
Eggplant is disgusting. The only way it's even marginally edible is if you doll it up with a bunch of other stuff to hide the flavor and consistency.

Okra, on the other hand, is really good if prepared right, and frankly, there's only two ways: fried, and in gumbo. Anything else comes out gummy as hell.

Cycloptichorn
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 10:40 am
The Girl often brings home this stuff from a Chinese place which is some kind of stir-fry with eggplant and tofu. It's seriously regusting.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 11:12 am
@Setanta,
Hmmm. MAYBE she's figuring out what she can bring home without you and the dogs going after it like you haven't been fed since Sunday.

Betcha you eat too.
Joe(on the sly)Nation Cool
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 11:46 am
@Joe Nation,
I bypass the eggplant . . . i give the tofu to the little dogs . . . how'd you know we ain't ate since Sunday?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 12:59 pm
@Joe Nation,
Cool Laughing Mr. Green
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 01:27 pm
@Setanta,
I have been sidekicked since early in my ute.

Joe(I have 20/20 vision but only five dollars on me.)Nation
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Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 02:41 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
John Durant, as quoted by NPR, wrote:
"For millions of years, we didn't have an obesity problem because we ate foods that our metabolism was adapted to," Durant says — foods such as root vegetables, tubers, fish and, of course, red meat.

"We were active and lived a healthy lifestyle," he says.

Also, the average human died around age 20. That's how healthy the caveman lifestyle was for our ancestors. Hooray to the 21st century! Hooray to artificial food and shelter! Or as David Bowie put it, "take your protein pills and put your helmet on."
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