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What do Christians think about Chris Hedges and this speech?

 
 
Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2011 05:29 pm
Like the title reads What do Christians think about Chris Hedges and this speech?

 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 06:42 am
@reasoning logic,
I don't know about Christians, but I know you can't articulate what you think about the speech, nor can you summarise the points he has made.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 07:17 am
@izzythepush,
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I know you can't articulate what you think about the speech, nor can you summarise the points he has made.


It is amazing how many subjective experiences you have.
If you would like to state facts you could say, "I know you will not articulate what you think about the speech nor will you summarise the points he has made in a way that is satisfactory to me. Wink
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 07:23 am
@reasoning logic,
No, I'm happy with what I've written. Whenever I've challenged you to list the points in any of your numerous videos you have been unable to. You never even try, because you can't.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 07:31 am
@izzythepush,
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You never even try


You are correct!

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because you can't.


childish

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 07:37 am
@reasoning logic,
I've made my point, and you can't prove me wrong.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 07:54 am
@izzythepush,
Don't you have a bridge you can hang out underneath troll?

Did you make this video?



izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 07:57 am
@reasoning logic,
That's right, just post videos that other people have made, because you are unable to articulate anything. Every post you make proves I'm right.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:08 am
@izzythepush,
Why don't you try and attack the message rather than the messenger and then see where it gets you?

Why come into a thread that has a video and talk about things that are off topic or talk about how you do not like to watch my videos and are looking for someone to comment on the video? Seems like a troll to me.
I will put you back on ignore and continue to monitor your behavior and when you have shown to have matured then I might respond to you. Laughing
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:13 am
@reasoning logic,
You're the immature one. Your idea of debate is to post videos made by people much smarter than you, in the hope it will make you appear intelligent. Why should anyone bother to debate anything with you? You cannot put anything in your own words, you just hide behind what others say.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:18 am
@izzythepush,
That's right attack the messenger and not the message. Laughing
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:23 am
@reasoning logic,
You're not the messenger, you're a wide eyed gimp posting stuff you think is clever because it uses words you don't understand. When you can articulate a single thought of your own, or why you think one of your videos is important, someone might take you seriously.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:30 am
@izzythepush,
Like I said Izzy until you show an effort of good behavior on your part do not expect me to fully participate in intellectual discussions with you.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:31 am
@reasoning logic,
I don't expect you to participate in intellectual converstions with anyone.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 08:51 am
@izzythepush,
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I don't expect you to participate in intellectual converstions with anyone.


You are correct being that I do not know what converstions are.

Give me one good reason why I should hold an intellectual conversation with you?
George
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 09:54 am
Churches Help Occupy Movement Survive Crackdowns, Winter

By Josef Kuhn
Religion News Service

WASHINGTON (RNS) As Occupy camps nationwide deal with police
crackdowns and the inevitable onset of winter temperatures, religious
communities of all stripes are stepping in with offers of shelter and
solidarity.

Soon after police forcibly evicted the original Occupy Wall Street camp in
New York's Zuccotti Park on Nov. 15, many of the protesters began sleeping
and gathering in local congregations, including Judson Memorial Church in
Greenwich Village.

"The eviction ... really shifts what happens here, and it really boomed the
movement, because immediately there was this network in place that
we'd developed of communities throughout New York that were willing to
open up their doors and house the movement," said the Rev. Michael
Ellick, a pastor at Judson Memorial.

Ellick and his colleagues got involved early on, marching to Zuccotti Park
with a golden calf fashioned to look like the iconic Wall Street bull statue.
Ever since, phones have been "ringing off the hook" with churches,
synagogues, mosques, temples and monasteries wanting to get involved in
some way, he said.

Various religious groups have held services at Zuccotti Park, which in turn
have "re-radicalized" their congregations, Ellick said.

"Initially it was just sort of a few churches who work a lot together on
these issues," he said. "Now it's actually a pretty hefty power base in New
York City," Ellick said.

A recent poll by the Public Religion Research Institute and Religion News
Service found that less than a third of Americans say the Occupy
movement represents their values, but the police evictions seem to have
boosted religious support for the movement.

According to Ellick, more than 1,400 faith leaders from around the country
have signed a pledge of solidarity with Occupy protesters, many of them
jumping in only after police cleared Zuccotti Park.

On the other side of the country, a network of religious communities
sprang up in Portland, Ore., to support Occupy Portland after police
cleared the camp on Nov. 13.

Since the eviction, the city's First Congregational Church and First
Unitarian Church have hosted meetings of the movement. While many of
the campers search for places to stay, First Unitarian has been housing
their gear and the media tent, making the church Occupy Portland's
unofficial hub.

About 25 clergy and religious leaders spent the night before the eviction
at the camp, praying and providing nonviolence counseling. The Rev.
Chuck Currie, a United Church of Christ minister, was one of them.

Currie said he found the number of young people who thanked or prayed
with the religious emissaries "astounding," especially because only one in
four Oregonians identify with a faith tradition.

"A number of people expressed surprise that we were there. They did not
realize that the church had an interest in these issues," Currie said.

Although surprising to some, many of the Occupy camps now have some
kind of faith outreach group, prayer tent or meditation class.

About a dozen Christian activists have started an ecumenical "Occupy
Church" at Washington's Occupy K Street encampment in downtown
Washington. The Occupy Church holds a prayer service every Saturday at
noon and is trying to establish a full-time, rotating chaplaincy for the
occupiers.

Unitarians, Muslims and Jews have also held worship services at the
encampment in McPherson Square. Mimicking the New York protest,
Jewish occupiers set up a tent in the square in October for the harvest
festival of Sukkot.

In addition to spiritual ministry and space to assemble and sleep, religious
communities have provided the Occupy movement with material support
such as food, clothing, tents, blankets and heaters.

A new interfaith coalition calling itself "Occupy Faith DC" hosted a free
Thanksgiving meal at a historic Washington church for about 300 of the
protesters, including a small group that had just marched in from New York
City.

"We understand and we are in total solidarity with you," James Lee, one of
the chief organizers of Occupy Faith DC, told the diners.

Occupy Faith DC is preparing to distribute a rapid response contact list of
faith-based groups and individuals who are willing to stand in solidarity
with the occupiers in the event of an eviction.

The list may be needed soon. The day after Thanksgiving, park rangers
issued notices about safety and sanitation concerns to the occupiers of
federally owned Freedom Plaza, a possible first step toward an eviction.

"Churches traditionally do charity pretty well," Ellick said, "and this is a
moment where that charity gets transformed into justice work and they
can start to see that there are underlying causes here that we need to
address."
George
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 10:12 am
Hedges wrote:
It was the church in Latin America, especially in Central
American and Augusto Pinochet’s Chile, which provided the physical space,
moral support and direction for the opposition to dictatorship.
Do you agree with this?
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George
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 10:13 am
Hedges wrote:
It was the church in East Germany that organized the peaceful opposition
marches in Leipzig that would bring down the communist regime in that
country.
Do you agree with this?
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George
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 10:14 am
Hedges wrote:
It was the church in Czechoslovakia, and its 90-year-old cardinal, that
blessed and defended the Velvet Revolution.
Do you agree with this?
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George
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2011 10:16 am
Hedges wrote:
It was the church, and especially the African-American church,
that made possible the civil rights movements.
Do you agree with this?
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