Why do you suppose Jesus never condemned slavery?

@reasoning logic,

When I see pictures like that I wonder what is going on in the little noddles, viewed from the rear, which are all agog to listen to the drivel I assume is being peddled at the gig.

What did the poster say which advertised it?

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@spendius,

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I wonder what is going on in the little noddles, viewed from the rear, which are all agog to listen to the drivel I assume is being peddled at the gig.

Did I hear you say "I assume?"

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What did the poster say which advertised it?

Are you assuming again that there was an advertisement that a poster presented?

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@spendius,

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What do you think about adopting a logically reasoned alternative?

I'm all for it. It sounds good to me. What could be better than a logically reasoned alternative?

What is it?

Y0u wouldn't understand, Spendius; it contains both logic and reason.

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We can't go around with a logically reasoned alternative unless we have some idea what it consists of.

Why not?

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Although I expect fools like Apisa will disagree and claim that we can go around with a logically reasoned alternative without knowing what it is.

We can.

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He has no fear of women so it's a logically reasoned proposition that he has been going around with some of them without knowing what they are.

No wonder you have to date your fist.

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The evidence here suggests that a logically reasoned alternative to the US educational system is long overdue.

Sounds as though the British system could use a tweak or three also.

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@spendius,

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Jesus supposedly was god.

Building your argument on that idea is so fatuous for an agnostic that the word "fatuous" is nowhere near suitable. Nut-case is better.

Ahhh...expanding your insults. You must be beginning to see how deep you are in the hole.

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Well...if your intellect and sensibilities is not up to helping...stay the hell out of the way.

It isn't up to finding an alternative which is not to say it isn't helping. You obviously have no alternative. "Helping society to function as best as possible" is not a policy. It is fatuity.

If you stay the hell out of the way...you will be helping.

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And one of the last things Jesus worried about...was being impolitic.

We are talking about the record of what Jesus worried about. Those who wrote the record were concerned with nothing else other than what was politic.

Gimme a break. Now you are grasping at straws.

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You keep up.

I said it first.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

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We can't go around with a logically reasoned alternative unless we have some idea what it consists of. Although I expect fools like Apisa will disagree and claim that we can go around with a logically reasoned alternative without knowing what it is.

If only one of you had a vagina you two might be a couple.

From the sounds of his fruity comments, I suspect Spendius has one. But I wouldn't screw him using your dick!

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@Frank Apisa,

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From the sounds of his fruity comments, I suspect Spendius has one. But I wouldn't screw him using your dick!

You do realize that this is a belief don't you?

You have never seen spendius dressed up in drag while you were drunk so you can not know that what you said is a factual statement. Drunk

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

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From the sounds of his fruity comments, I suspect Spendius has one. But I wouldn't screw him using your dick!

You do realize that this is a belief don't you?

You have never seen spendius dressed up in drag while you were drunk so you can not know that what you said is a factual statement.

Any chance at all that it could be a GUESS?

Or just me busting his balls?

Why do you spend some much time trying to saddle me with that guess nonsense? Why does it obsess you so?

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@Frank Apisa,

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Any chance at all that it could be a GUESS?

Or just me busting his balls?

I would say it was busting his balls.

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Why do you spend some much time trying to saddle me with that guess nonsense? Why does it obsess you so?

Any chance at all that I could be Joking around or do you think I was being serious?

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@reasoning logic,

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Did I hear you say "I assume?"

You are correct on this occasion. I did say "assume". It is a reasonably logical conclusion to draw from the suits (tuxedos), shirts, ties, polished shoes, haircuts, shifty eyes, glistening floor and microphone to project the self, that drivel is being peddled. Vanity is bursting forth unhindered. I bet he neither drinks nor smokes.

Further evidence is that you have selected the video.

I gave it a try but the greaseball started by saying that science should be the authority on moral issues obviously quite oblivious to the fact that it is science precisely that is the authority on the determination of moral values by the Church and has been from the start. So I turned it off at that point.

Like the rest of you he defines science in a way that can only result in the conclusion I assume he is going to come to. Thus a tautology is in operation which is to say drivel is being peddled.

It is very difficult for me to explain in any detail because I am polite enough to take into account that I am addressing a couple of little Christian boys who think that using certain daring words signifies their liberal familiarity with the world of rumpy-pumpy.

It's easy to see how "simply awful" wanking is in Apisa's eyes. He prefers millions of abortions, rubber barriers, and chemical and surgical spaying of women. The priests of his youth have done their job very well. I dare say Apisa believes that wanking causes hair to grow in the palm of the hand or causes high golf handicaps playing off the ladies' tees and the tip of the tounge to appear at the corner of the mouth when huddled over a 3 foot putt.

He knows nothing of what Diogenes is reported to have said on the subject, how Fellini depicted it in a couple of award winning movies or the general practice of the studs in porn films. Apart from the danger of what Mailer called "masturbation burn-out" wanking is harmless and that cannot be said about millions of abortions, rubber barriers, and chemical and surgical spaying of women. The subtle jokes about the subject in many a Cary Grant film will, it is bootless to say except for a bit of extra rubbing in, pass Apisa by like the innocent he is.

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@reasoning logic,

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Any chance at all that I could be Joking around or do you think I was being serious?

I think you are being serious rl. It is important to you to call into question the teaching of the Church on sexual morality and the proper manner in which to scientifically organise a large number of bunches of ignorant peasants into such a sophisticated, civilised, tight-knit and powerful society as we have at our disposal now. Why it is important could be any one of a small number of delicate matters or even a combination of them.

Your supposedly flippant tone doesn't disguise your earnestness to me. I'm a bit down in the mouth that you think it might do. I won't press you on the specific issue, or combination of issues, on which you question the Church's teachings because it would be a lapse of taste for me to so do and anyway I have a pretty good idea what is likely involved.

I could get you swinging your mitts in a pub after a few pints: in 5 minutes.

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@spendius,

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I think you are being serious rl.

You think I was being serious about the below quote? What makes you sure I do not believe Frank has seen you dressed in drag?

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You have never seen spendius dressed up in drag while you were drunk so you can not know that what you said is a factual statement

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It is a mistake, and a profound one, to think that Christianity created Faustian man. That's us. "To boldly go. . . " It was Faustian man which created the Christianity we know and love. Starting about 1000 AD. THE Bible is the King James version. To be preached in every pulpit of the land so this show could be got on the road and rolling. Where to I cannot imagine.

According to form it is the valley floor but none of the previous attempts had The Bible to work with. It has flexibility. Science knows no such thing.

Most serious scientists seem to be agnostic on the subject of whether science might serve for moral guidance. Anybody who says it can has never been closely questioned.

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@spendius,

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It's easy to see how "simply awful" wanking is in Apisa's eyes. He prefers millions of abortions, rubber barriers, and chemical and surgical spaying of women. The priests of his youth have done their job very well. I dare say Apisa believes that wanking causes hair to grow in the palm of the hand or causes high golf handicaps playing off the ladies' tees and the tip of the tounge to appear at the corner of the mouth when huddled over a 3 foot putt.

I'm going to assume that "wanking" is the fruity way to say "jerking off"...and then say, "Hey, whatever gave you the idea that I think jerking off is awful."

Frankly, I have never given myself a bad hand j0b...and I have thoroughly enjoyed each of them many, many instances of self-administered hand jobs that I have had through the course of my life. During younger days, even when I was getting laid regularly, I beat my meat. I can do it both right handed and left handed.

The "Diogenes, Fellini, Mailer, and Cary Grant nonsense is just more of your fruitiness...and pretentiousness. Thanks for showing it as often as you do. Laughter is great medicine.

Laughing

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@Frank Apisa,

You can **** off with that assertion Frank. There's nothing fruity about wanking, it's good earthy and Anglo-Saxon, jerking off always sounds like it should be whispered by a well-past-her-best New Orleans madame.

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@reasoning logic,

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Any chance at all that it could be a GUESS?

Or just me busting his balls?

I would say it was busting his balls.

And you would be correct.

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Why do you spend some much time trying to saddle me with that guess nonsense? Why does it obsess you so?

Any chance at all that I could be Joking around or do you think I was being serious?

There is a chance that you were joking around...but my sense of things when I read what you wrote (read it over again yourself) was that you were being serious.

If not...I apologize for making too much of it.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Frankly, I have never given myself a bad hand j0b...and I have thoroughly enjoyed each of them many, many instances of self-administered hand jobs that I have had through the course of my life. During younger days, even when I was getting laid regularly, I beat my meat. I can do it both right handed and left handed.

Frank I think you may have spent too much time in the sun today. I think you need to kick off your shoes drink something cold and come back to your senses. Laughing

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@reasoning logic,

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Frankly, I have never given myself a bad hand j0b...and I have thoroughly enjoyed each of them many, many instances of self-administered hand jobs that I have had through the course of my life. During younger days, even when I was getting laid regularly, I beat my meat. I can do it both right handed and left handed.

Frank I think you may have spent too much time in the sun today. I think you need to kick off your shoes drink something cold and come back to your senses.

No sun today. Delightful day of golf with heavy cloud cover. My favorite. Wink

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@Frank Apisa,

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No sun today. Delightful day of golf with heavy cloud cover. My favorite

It is good to hear you had a delightful day of golf but I do have to say your comments about beating your meat seem to be related to Stinky's comments.

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@reasoning logic,

I just seen the weirdest things a woman can do with her breast at the end of that video.

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@Frank Apisa,

The main thing about wanking is that it removes, or defuses, or inhibits the monopoly on male sexual relief which ought to be enjoyed by women. Wanking produces a take-it-or-leave-it attitude to their charms along the lines Philip Larkin and Kingsley Amis delineated whereby one might get the relief over quickly, not be required to listen to the wittering of women as part of the foreplay and allows all of one's income to be spent on oneself.

Obviously misogyny in its most radical form. As a growing number of sophisticated women have discovered, penile restraint is the antidote. A future ethic I forsee is all men subjected to mandatory penile restraint which is only relaxed occasionally and then only as a reward for the satisfactory performance of certain difficult rituals.

Now that the Church's teaching on the subject has fallen into desuetude penile restraint might be the only way forward for the female sex if it is to avoid joining us in equality at the coal face, the front line and trawling the icy oceans.

Frank Harris claimed that wanking, or a nocturnal emission, (the real thing which wankers disqualify themselves from experiencing), took 2 inches off his high jump, produced dark bags under his eyes and the general physical decline associated with golf handicaps above 2. The advantage being that it took his mind off girls and allowed him to concentrate on Greek poetry translations.

I have been consulted in the pub by three or four young lads who were aware of my reputation on how they go about getting a girlfriend. I told them all to knock off wanking and the rest would follow automatically. As wankers their standards were too high for what women in their class had to offer.

It's a good joke of Flaubert's to make Spendius's conception occur on the docks when his father, A Greek rhetorician, disembarked after a long trip by sea and was immediately connected to a Campagnian prostitute of the lowest rank. A wanker could have waited until he got into Rome and the scented baths of the hetairai.

I bet Apisa played hard to get.

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