@JPB,
JPB wrote:Speaking as an atheist, I agree with you that Dawkins and Hitchens are as self righteous and arrogant in the presentation of their thoughts as any fundamentalist believer.
I disagree about the arrogance. But then again, it's not the
presentation by Christian fundamentalist believers that I have a problem with. Consider the most extreme example I can think of right now: Just after 9/11, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson asserted that the attacks were god's punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuals, and implied that Sodom-and-Gomorrah-style carnage was upon us if we didn't change our ways. (To be fair, they later retracted their statements and apologized for them.) Was it their presentation that made those statements problematic?
I don't think so. If the Creator of the Universe was indeed out to get us, and if Robertson and Falwell sincerely believed that He was, their alarmist presentation would have been perfectly adequate to the clear and present danger they were trying to avert. Moreover, every reasonable person would then agree with their remedy, to throw gay rights under the bus. Civil rights are important, but not important enough to commit collective suicide for. So to repeat, Falwell's and Robertson's
presentation was perfectly adequate, given their factual beliefs. Their only problem is that their factual beliefs were grotesquely devoid of merit.