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Is this the beginning of the end of Rupert Murdoch's media empire?

 
 
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:05 am
@msolga,
not sure yet - cream pie? shaving foam? - but Pink lady Murdoch who has been sitting behind MurdochSr reportedly gave the "attacker" a good slap - quite right too

truly, farcical! Demonstrations like that will take away the seriousness of the questions

even tho most of the answers have been "I know nothing"
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:06 am
@Izzie,
Izzie wrote:

not sure yet - cream pie? shaving foam? - but Pink lady Murdoch who has been sitting behind MurdochSr reportedly gave the "attacker" a good slap - quite right too

truly, farcical! Demonstrations like that will take away the seriousness of the questions

even tho most of the answers have been "I know nothing"


The whole thing has been a farce to begin with - Murdoch (both of them) will simply lie and evade his ass off, he'll admit to nothing.

Cycloptichorn
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Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:08 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

AL-PIEDA STRIKES AGAIN


Oh my... that's terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible <groan>




I cannot believe security allowed this to happen... gosh, how ridiculous does it make our security look! Dreadful.



Yep Cyclo - and now MurdochSr is not to be questioned!



Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:10 am
@Izzie,
Quote:


Oh my... that's terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible <groan>


There's a college group here in the US called Al-pieda, who goes around hitting Conservatives in the face with pies. I didn't make it up! Smile

Cycloptichorn
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:11 am
@Izzie,
Apparently, according to the BBC, a protester attempted to attack Murdoch with shaving foam. I think his wife (Wendi) fought him off.
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:12 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:


Oh my... that's terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible <groan>


There's a college group here in the US called Al-pieda, who goes around hitting Conservatives in the face with pies. I didn't make it up! Smile

Cycloptichorn


Oh man, you coulda claimed that one! Very Happy Heh, you shoulda said it was Deist TKO's Wink
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:13 am
@Izzie,
Damn, that would have been smart!

The guy tweeted, right before he did it:

"It is a far better thing that I do now than I have ever done before #splat."

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:13 am
@msolga,
Andrew Sullivan:

Quote:
12.02 pm. The dude appears to be a member of the group UK Uncut - not a group dedicated to protecting foreskin, alas, but a decentralized bunch of activists opposed to tax evasion. They're playing Wendi's solid slap over again and again on British TV. Where were the police? The man is now named as Jonnie Marbles, a "comedian".

11.59 am. It appears Wendi Murdoch clocked the bloke. Or slapped him on the head. I wouldn't want to cross Wendi Murdoch. Was it a foam pie? No, it was a custard pie!


I think he's actually there, not watching on TV.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:13 am
@sozobe,
That's where I'm following it, fellow Sully fan!

Cycloptichorn
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:15 am
Amazing, just amazing. Surprised

Night all.
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:16 am
@msolga,
G'nite MzO x
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:17 am
@Izzie,
Night, possum.

Oh look, the hearing has resumed!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:19 am
@Cycloptichorn,
It seems have been done by Al-Razor ...
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:20 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

Hi Iz

12:40 am here & this looks like going on & on ....
I doubt I'll last the distance.

Seems neither James nor Rupert were aware of anything much at all of the important developments (which could be incriminating to them) at the time they happened. Neutral

I'm finding it rather excruciating watching, too.

Interesting question: "Are you aware of willful blindness?"



Ah...part of the honourable tradition in such cases.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:22 am
@dlowan,
Yep.
They knew nothing.
They were betrayed by NOTW journalists. Not Rebecka, or any trusted high-up executive people ....
And they can't answer half the questions because of police inquiries. Neutral

Night, Deb.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:39 am
@msolga,
Have you looked at Roop's body language? He's finding playing the broken old man a little bit too hard. He's obviously used to dominating a discussion, and banging his fist on the table like Kruschev. Even in his subdued form he still keeps tapping the table, but now it seems like a form of tourettes. He was even told to stop gesticulating by his minders.

The BBC said every single ex-NOTW editor says Roop used to phone up every week and demand to know exactly what was going on. So his defence that he did not know is rubbish.

Interesting cultural aside, just after the foam incident I quickly switched to Fox. They described it as 'a security violation.' The BBC described it as 'a bit of a kerfuffle.'
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:43 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

Andrew Sullivan:

Quote:
12.02 pm. The dude appears to be a member of the group UK Uncut -


A brilliant non-violent protest group. Their message we wouldn't need any cuts if the rich stopped avoiding tax.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 11:31 am
@izzythepush,
So Neil Wallis seems to have provided "informal advice" to David Cameron's communications chief Andy Coulson before the general election.

The Conservative Party's statement about this:
Quote:
There have been some questions about whether the Conservative Party employed Neil Wallis. We have double checked our records and are able to confirm that neither Neil Wallis nor his company has ever been contracted by the Conservative Party, nor has the Conservative Party made payments to either of them.

It has been drawn to our attention that he may have provided Andy Coulson with some informal advice on a voluntary basis before the election. We are currently finding out the exact nature of any advice.
We can confirm that apart from Andy Coulson, neither David Cameron nor any senior member of the campaign team were aware of this until this week.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 11:42 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

Quote:
Given the make-up of the board it is for all practical purposes impossible for Murdoch to lose control of the empire, though their is speculation that he will publicly semi-retire and run it from behind the scenes.

You don't seem to know how a board is elected hawk.
Nor do you seem to understand that Murdoch owns less than 40% of NewsCorp.

Murdoch's buddies can easily be thrown off the board by the shareholders. They only need 50.0001% in the next board elections.
YOU can join Olga and Izzy in the ignorant group

Quote:
News Corp.'s variety of lousy governance is simple -- one man exerts control wildly out of proportion to his stake in the business. As at many companies with bad governance, the mechanism is dual-class stock. News Corp.'s class A shares account for about 70% of the company's market cap (recently $41 billion total) but have no voting power. Only class B shares, which account for the other 30% of the market cap, get to vote, and Rupert Murdoch has almost 40% of the class B shares. Economically he owns just 12% of the company, but he wields total control because he can elect all the directors. While the other class B shareholders (about 1,300 of them) could in theory gang up on him and vote against his wishes, in practice that doesn't happen. It's especially unlikely since long-time Murdoch supporter Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia owns 7% of the class B shares.
Ultimate responsibility for protecting News Corp.'s 48,000 total shareholders thus rests with a board comprising three directors named Murdoch (Rupert plus sons James and Lachlan; daughter Elisabeth is scheduled to join next year), four additional News Corp. employees (COO Chase Carey, CFO David DeVoe, executive VP Joel Klein, and senior adviser Arthur Siskind), two former News Corp. employees, and seven other directors, including a 31-year-old opera singer, Natalie Bancroft, from the family that owned Dow Jones, which News Corp. bought in 2007. News Corp. says her "youth" and "female perspective" bring value to the board. Under such guardianship, it's unsurprising the stock has disappointed investors; it has underperformed the S&P 500 over the past five and 10 years.
This board meets the independence requirements of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act and Nasdaq, where the stock trades, but if it doesn't seem very independent to you, that's understandable. In any case, it doesn't matter. While legally the board can fire Rupert Murdoch, practically he can fire the board, and the board knows it. Truly the company has earned its F in governance.
The effects are insidious and more far reaching than you might imagine. "It creates a culture with no accountability," says Charles Elson, director of the University of Delaware's John L. Weinberg Center for Corporate Governance. In companies where directors are genuinely subject to the shareholders' will, CEOs get fired; BP's (BP) board fired Tony Hayward last year, for example, and Hewlett-Packard's (HPQ) board fired Mark Hurd. The message cascades down through the organization: Bad behavior gets you fired here. But at companies where the CEO can fire the board, a different message cascades down: We don't answer to the shareholders, we answer to just one person. It's the rule of man, not the rule of law

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/19/the-trembling-at-news-corp-has-only-begun/?hpt=hp_t1
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 04:42 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

A brilliant non-violent protest group. Their message we wouldn't need any cuts if the rich stopped avoiding tax.



well, tho I don't condone the protest group on this type of occasion - which for me detracts from the seriousness, and also makes the British Security System look wholly ridiculous (could there have been any more security? - sheesh, even the plod in the room took his time to cross the room, and the disruption even prevented any futher questions to MurdochSr. I have to say that it all got a little tense in a kerfuffle sought of way for all of 10 seconds... humble pie and a close shave with the truth, the whole truth and nowt but the truth... <cough cough cough>

Loved the slap-happy Mrs Murdoch tho - go girl ! (I know, hush my mouth, she was pretty in pink!)
 

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