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Is this the beginning of the end of Rupert Murdoch's media empire?

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 05:29 am
Here, Bubba, i'll make it simple for you. Which are the two major parties in England, and why do you dismiss the one in the list of three i gave you as not being a major party? That you should be a simple enough question for someone so in the know as you like to portray yourself.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 05:59 am
so now everyones lining up to sue, the dead girls family i get, she's a private citizen, they have a civil case, jude law, **** you, you're a celebrity, you put yourself out in the public eye and **** is gonna happen (same with brown and any other politician)

but the one that really got me was the shareholders, ******* pompous assholes, they were more than happy to collect money when the corp was raking in money through nefarious means, suck it up that your losing money now
parados
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 06:47 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Given the make-up of the board it is for all practical purposes impossible for Murdoch to lose control of the empire, though their is speculation that he will publicly semi-retire and run it from behind the scenes.

You don't seem to know how a board is elected hawk.
Nor do you seem to understand that Murdoch owns less than 40% of NewsCorp.

Murdoch's buddies can easily be thrown off the board by the shareholders. They only need 50.0001% in the next board elections.
hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 07:00 am
@djjd62,
There was a cabal of shareholders that protested the Murdoch steerage before this story broke,but they only represented about 1% of shares and there protest was mostly about Murdoch's 'nepotism over governance' ethic. At least they get to say 'I told you so'.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 07:10 am
From the live-update ...Two senior figures in the Met - John Yates and Dick Fedorcio - are now effectively blaming each other for the decision to hire Neil Wallis. ....
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 07:28 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm watching it now. I just broke off to talk to you.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 07:34 am
@izzythepush,
You're flattering Wink

Rupert Murdoch's biographer, Michael Wolff, has suggested this afternoon that Rupert Murdoch could resign before the culture committee, the BBC are reporting.
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 07:35 am
@izzythepush,
Live streaming on ABC News, too, if anyone in Oz is interested:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:33 am
@msolga,
Hey MzO - put 't kettle on (you oughta be asleep by now!) and I'll bring the biccies (tho I do feel slightly nauseated at this right now) - sitting watching it with you as will many folk in the UK I reckon. I have to admit - I am very uncomfortable watching Murdoch Sr. I'm not sure if I feel like I am covered in crawling bugs or what it is, but, it does make me very uncomfortable.


HAWKEYE!

I am British and I am part of the public - just a regular little nobody who is as angry like the rest of the nobodies about this.

The British public are absolutely upset about what is also happening within the system and the corruption at the highest levels. They're all a bunch of slimy bastards.

However, there is a lot that is out of our control - depsite being the voters! Tho we can do what we can to address these matters - usually, people power doesn't work too often when we shout on the streets, until election time - and even then, well, even that doesn't work as has been seen by the coalition last time round. You vote for a party - and who knew, they join together and lie through their back teeth about their policies and promises (promises said in the loosest possible terms!)

When a little girl goes missing, is found murdered... that is bad enough. The public, as with any missing child or murderered child, has intense sympathy/empathy for the parents, family and friends. Our Nation does grieve.

I do have an idea of what planet you live on from your postings over the years, but fortunately for me, I don't live in your world.

As a public, or as you would like to say, "our British Collective" - yes, I would imagine that a majority of the UK knows about what's going on - our news stations are covering everything. I don't read newspapers, so I would have no idea of that particular media format. I would also believe that a majority are disgusted with what happened in the Millie Dowler case. I also believe, Joe Public will have more interest in what is happening in this case because yes, it could be any of our children, it could be any of us who were given hope that their child was alive, when in fact she had been murdered and her voice mails deleted by hacks. When the news comes of celebs or politicians having problems, we usually know that they will have the funds to pay for lawyers etc - Joe Public doesn't. So this case, for Joe Public - is different.

That may not be the right way and perhaps we should have equal concern for every person who has been hacked - but in reality, that does not happen. I do believe that is why there is such a media spotlight on NI now.







<waves to Hinge>
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:42 am
@Izzie,
Hi Iz

12:40 am here & this looks like going on & on ....
I doubt I'll last the distance.

Seems neither James nor Rupert were aware of anything much at all of the important developments (which could be incriminating to them) at the time they happened. Neutral

I'm finding it rather excruciating watching, too.

Interesting question: "Are you aware of willful blindness?"
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:51 am
@msolga,
ll the CEOs of AMerican tobacco companies were unaware that smoking was hazardous to our health.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:55 am
@farmerman,
Yep.
I'm sure they were completely taken by surprise when they found out, too.

This is so frustrating to watch!
Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:05 am
@msolga,
I've missed a bunch of this but having come back to it now, I wish MurdochSr would stop hitting the table. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

It's also frustrating to listen to them both saying how "their trust" has been violated by the wrongdoers...

grrrrrrrrrrrrr!
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:18 am
@Izzie,
So much they don't know, were not aware of ......
How can they not know the details of payments of Mulcair's & Clive Goodman's legal fees, the various pay-outs of others?

Gotta crash. Will catch up on the rest tomorrow.



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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:36 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

Hi Iz

12:40 am here & this looks like going on & on ....
I doubt I'll last the distance.

Seems neither James nor Rupert were aware of anything much at all of the important developments (which could be incriminating to them) at the time they happened. Neutral

I'm finding it rather excruciating watching, too.

Interesting question: "Are you aware of willful blindness?"


Willful blindness is a legal term in the United States.The doctrine holds that if there is information you could have known and should have known, but somehow failed to know, then you may still be deemed responsible. It was cited by the judge in the trial of Enron executives.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:39 am
@wandeljw,
Yes, the member of parliament who asked the question had to explain what the term means.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:54 am
@wandeljw,
Truman said it best; this sign was on his desk as president.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/imposter222/240px-Buckstopsherefrontsmall.jpg
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Izzie
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:56 am
oh my... postponement due to... we're not sure yet - a possible paint attack towards MurdochSr

good lawd - where on earth is the security - farcical Shocked

ugh - such uncomfortable watching
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 09:58 am
Wow, what happened?
The hearing has been adjourned ....
A young man handcuffed (after trying to strike someone?) & taken away ...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:05 am
It was a pie! Someone tried to pie him in the face!

Yay England!

AL-PIEDA STRIKES AGAIN

Cycloptichorn
 

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