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I Will Vote No More - Perhaps Forever

 
 
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 02:52 pm
@joefromchicago,
I believe I addressed the specific frustrations he expressed above quite accurately. The conclusions you draw are your own.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:10 pm
@georgeob1,
I agree that some on this foram should go to cuba, but not the ones you think should go. Some people need an education in the liberties we enjoy in this country and leaving the country and expressing ones self in cuba or Saudi Arabia or Israel might be educational for the likes of you, and Okie, and Icon, and waterman!!!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:12 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

I believe I addressed the specific frustrations he expressed above quite accurately. The conclusions you draw are your own.


You recommended he go to Cuba, because he's frustrated with a lack of progress? Laughing

Cycloptichorn
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:33 pm
All of you appear to suffer from irony deficiency.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:33 pm
@georgeob1,
I will consider it if you promise to consider Albania for yourself.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:40 pm
@edgarblythe,
I found a pretty good fit for the specific complaints you eneumerated. On what basis have you made your recommendation?

I haven't really made any complaints about my situation - even that here in Northern Caliufornia not too far from Bezerkeley. Well, on second thought, I'm not too fond of Barbara Boxer, Nanci Pelosi and Pete Stark - but there are lots of distractions from even these loonies, and they do provide some comic relief.

And I do vote .. even though they remain.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:51 pm
@georgeob1,
Following Republican agenda leads to what they have in Albania, only with lots of fire power.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:11 pm
@edgarblythe,
I don't see any connection at all. I travelled through parts of it about three years ago, and found only strange looking, depressed & passive people, the tawdry towns & architecture - all reminiscent of the authoritarian socialism that infected the country for so many decades. Nothing at all Republican there. They did have government operated health care & social systems and had been free for a long time from annoying elections or the ability to fend for themselves. Indeed you might consider it an alternative to Havana- though the weather & scenery aren't nearly as good.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:12 pm
@georgeob1,
It never ceases to amaze me how willing these hypocrites are to leap up and broadcast their ignorance.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:33 pm
@georgeob1,
THey have no freedom or money for the poor. Republican heaven.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 09:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
Don't feel bad about not voting. I don't think I will ever vote, I think it's one of the most pointless ways I can try to affect my world.

Quote:
Why would an economist be embarrassed to be seen at the voting booth? Because voting exacts a cost - in time, effort, lost productivity - with no discernible payoff except perhaps some vague sense of having done your "civic duty." As the economist Patricia Funk wrote in a recent paper, "A rational individual should abstain from voting."


Freakonomics: Why Vote
Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 09:50 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
At the risk of being branded a nut, I nevertheless plan to cease voting, as of last week. I feel I can no longer trust our government to do what is right for its people, regardless of the party in control.

I think you have the process backwards. Voting isn't about voting people in for doing the right thing. It's about voting people out for doing the wrong thing. And although I, too, would hesitate to vote for Obama, the alternatives scare me enough to make me want to keep them out of power.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 11:23 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

Don't feel bad about not voting. I don't think I will ever vote, I think it's one of the most pointless ways I can try to affect my world.

Quote:
Why would an economist be embarrassed to be seen at the voting booth? Because voting exacts a cost - in time, effort, lost productivity - with no discernible payoff except perhaps some vague sense of having done your "civic duty." As the economist Patricia Funk wrote in a recent paper, "A rational individual should abstain from voting."


Freakonomics: Why Vote


Ha! I am in a swinging electorate...I can change governments! And then feel bad.

But what if everyone felt that way? I mean the way you feel.


Also, that's so US-Centric (I know that's where you and Edgar vote, but still). We don't have no stinking Electoral College.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:04 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
I never expected as much from Obama as all that. I only voted for him after he became the only choice left.

How about voting for a third-party candidate, just to let the Democrats know there's a risk in selling out too many of the things you care about?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:05 am
@Thomas,
If I find a candidate who says what I want to hear, I am flexible.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:06 am
@edgarblythe,
The fate of the nation is resting on my narrow shoulders.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:11 am
@Thomas,
Got a lot of grief last time I voted for Nader.
Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:12 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The bad guys are being quite effective at blocking the good guys. This isn't, in my mind, a reason to confuse the two.

Only because the good guys let them. When you have solid majorities in both the House and the Senate, and you let the bad guys paralyse you, that says something about you, not just about them. (For details, search the Web for "nuclear option".)
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:17 am
@Thomas,
One of my best complaints. They had the way but not the will.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 28 May, 2011 07:19 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
Got a lot of grief last time I voted for Nader.

From whom? Certainly not from me. I think the big parties' duopoly on America's politics is a stain on this democracy. This duopoly needs to be busted, and someone has to start the busting somewhere. If you had a part in starting to bust it, more power to you!
 

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