What do you think about this?

Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 10:52 am
Just imagine going to a ball game - ....peanuts and cracker jacks all over the place.
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 10:53 am
I don't mind the hand washing - actually teaches them good health habits. The rinsing out of the mouth seems extreme to me - don't know why it bothers me so much.

What are they using to rinse with?
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:10 am
But don't you think you have to have a genetic predisposition as well? My mother was a nurse too and you could eat off of her floors - but I don't have any allergies at all. On the other hand my son has extremely sensitive skin and skin allergies. He couldn't wear disposable diapers from birth. I couldn't use diaper wipes on him. I could only use certain types of soap on him and even now at certain times of the year, he breaks out terribly with eczema. I know that eczema is not technically an allergy, but it is associated with allergies and allergic reactions- I feel extremely lucky that he didn't develop asthma:
Kids who get eczema often have family members with hay fever, asthma, or other allergies.
Some experts think these kids may be genetically predisposed to get eczema, which means characteristics have been passed on from parents through genes that make a child more likely to get it.
About half of the kids who get eczema will also someday develop hay fever or asthma themselves. Eczema is not an allergy itself, but allergies can trigger eczema. Some environmental factors (such as excessive heat or emotional stress) can also trigger the condition. About 1 out of every 10 kids develops eczema.
Typically, symptoms appear within the first few months of life, and almost always before a child turns 5. But the good news is that more than half of the kids who have eczema today will be over it by the time they're teenagers.

Linkat - I think the other children are just asked to rinse their mouths with water. That's the impression I got from what I read.
Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:27 am
Well, I do have asthma and excema, but none of my brothers or sisters or cousins have these allergies and yet, several of them have the same skin problems. So genetics may only be part of the equation. It doesn't really matter how you got them once you have them though, it just plain sucks. But.. You don't miss what you can't have. Wink
Bee keepers, here at least, are expected to keep an account of all the stings they've had. I know several chefs and hairdressers who developed allergies to the products they worked with, mostly skin problems, hives. Over exposure seems to be the cause in these cases and gives an indication that sensitive systems can be affected at any age.
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Reply Sat 26 Mar, 2011 08:17 pm
This subject presents a minefield.
How far do you go to be inclusive?
A somewhat similar situation exists in m y home town. A young woman with mental problems that do not allow her to be socially cognizant wants to participate in a drama group.
The Drama group has a policy of being inclusive of people with disability however that may manifest its self.
The Young womans social skills are very poor and she sometimes resorts to minor violence. Other members of the group are no longer participating and those who do continue to participate avoid engaging this woman to the point where she has complained about being excluded and ostracised.
The drama group will most probably fold if this young woman continues to be included.
How inclusive can you be before you are being exclusive.

On the subject of this thread. I would say that i am surprised parents at this school would not want their kids to brush teeth after eating and wash hands after play.
On the other hand it is somewhat concerning that if i make a mistake with my childs lunch or snack food I could be responsible for injury (or even death) to the child.
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Reply Sun 27 Mar, 2011 02:51 am
aidan wrote:
Yeah - I'm of two minds myself.

On the one hand, as a mother, I'd be afraid to trust my daughter's health and life to the meticulousness of other children and adults/staff who might be resentful anyway of having to follow the rules.

But on the other hand, also speaking as a mother, I'd not think it was too much to ask my own children to wash their hands and rinse out their mouths so that this little girl would not have to be so isolated and could experience a somewhat normal life and school experience.

It's like I asked David once, if you could save a child's life by giving up your love affair with guns,
would you sacrifice that for that child?
I don 't remember that.
What was my reply ?

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Reply Wed 17 Aug, 2011 08:59 am
(Health.com) -- Amanda Santos wanted to send her 5-year-old daughter, Skylar, to a small private school. But after they interviewed, met the teachers, and submitted Skylar's medical records, they never heard back from the school, despite repeated inquiries.
Santos, who lives in Fairhaven, Massachusetts, can't say for sure why communication was cut off so abruptly, but she's convinced that Skylar's severe nut allergy was an issue.

"They knew going in that she had an allergy; they said it was no problem," says Santos. "But until we sat down and had a meeting about the precautions they'd have to take -- kids washing their hands, asking parents not to send nuts to school, that kind of thing -- they didn't realize how severe it was. I just think they didn't want her there, didn't want to deal with all of that."

Santos is not alone. According to a new study conducted in the U.K., families with children who are living with this potentially life-threatening condition often feel isolated, stigmatized, or unfairly excluded from activities, due to the allergies.
In many ways, nut allergies feel more like a disability than a chronic illness because of the stigma, the researchers say.
"Families reported some really very difficult and unpleasant experiences when they were trying to keep their child safe from risk," says coauthor Mary Dixon-Woods, professor of medical sociology at the University of Leicester.
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"I was expecting to hear about problems with labeling and so on, but the extent of the stigma families reported was very troubling," she says.
Peanuts are the most common food trigger of life-threatening anaphylactic shock, accounting for more than half of all fatal food-induced allergic reactions. Peanut allergies are on the rise, doubling in children between 1997 and 2002. About 1% of children in the U.S. have peanut allergies.
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Along with the rise in nut allergies have come more restrictions on schools and other public places, including nut-free classrooms and airplanes, as well as better labeling for products.
In recent years, there has been a bit of backlash against the greater focus on nut allergies. In 2008, Harvard Medical School professor Nicholas A. Christakis published in the journal BMJ an editorial called "This allergies hysteria is just nuts." While noting that allergies are a real problem, he wrote about the "overabundance of caution" at his children's school and an incident in which a school bus was evacuated because a peanut was found on the floor.
To determine some of the challenges faced by parents of children with nut allergies, Dixon-Woods and her colleagues interviewed 26 families about their coping strategies and techniques for avoiding dangerous situations.
They found, however, that these parents were routinely made to feel that such allergies were nothing but a "frivolous and self-indulgent fad invented and maintained by attention-seeking people."

Parents interviewed for the study frequently encountered skepticism or hostility when they tried to explain their children's allergies to others, says Dixon-Woods. Birthday parties became "nightmares," and even just sending kids to school or leaving them with friends or family was terrifying.
Interview transcripts from the study reveal several scenarios in which parents felt ridiculed, ignored, or challenged on the subject of food allergies.
· In the lunchroom at school, children might feel bullied. "She was teased and things like that, people saying...'I've got nuts and I'm gonna come and touch you,'" said one participant.
· Said one participant about a family camping trip: "He'd caught her sort of pulling faces and complaining to other people that they'd had to put the peanuts away...they all laughed and it was awful..."
· At a social gathering, the hosts thought the family was overdramatizing the problem. "We got invited up for a party...gave them a list of what he could eat," said one study participant. "[We] walked in there and I couldn't believe my eyes, big bowls of peanuts in between all the food."
· Forgetful or disbelieving relatives aren't uncommon. In one family, a grandparent gave a child candy with nuts. "Now whether it was deliberate or not, I don't know, but I blew a fuse," said one participant. "I suppose in my heart of hearts I felt that he'd given it deliberately; my husband doesn't want to believe that his father would do that."
The study, published Monday in the journal Chronic Illness, was funded by the British charity Midlands Asthma and Allergy Research Association.
Dixon-Woods agrees that better food labeling, more education, and stricter regulation is necessary to reduce misunderstanding and negative attitudes about nut allergies especially in the United States, where peanut-based products are ubiquitous and the word allergy is frequently used to describe non-life-threatening conditions such as hay fever.
"It may be time to come up with a new term to describe the condition," Dixon-Woods says. "'Nut allergy' is so poorly understood that it really is not a helpful term anymore."

The Santos family removed their daughter from preschool this year because a teacher gave her a food with traces of nuts. When she had a minor reaction, the school's response was, "Well, she didn't die, so she's fine," Santos says.
They've had flight attendants tell them that other passengers' snack preferences were more important than Skylar's safety. And they've gotten nasty looks from parents on Skylar's T-ball team after her coach requested that a child who'd been eating nuts put them away and wash his hands.
"Generally speaking, the public awareness of food allergy in the U.S. has increased, and this has resulted in some real benefits to families," says Brian P. Vickery, MD, an assistant professor of pediatrics at Duke University School of Medicine, in Durham. "For example, manufacturers are now required to put clearer labels on food items, many restaurants can provide better experiences, and schools are often more prepared to handle children with allergies."
However, the situation is far from perfect, he says.

"Bullying in school does happen. The risks of anaphylaxis are not always appreciated," says Dr. Vickery. "Many families continue to struggle over and over again with obstacles, limitations, skepticism, and judgment."
Each family handles the challenges differently, but "we try to provide as much practical and scientific guidance as we can, and equip them to handle anything that might happen," he says.


I am down with teaching these kids not to eat nuts, not serving nuts in hot lunch to young kids, and clearly labeling nuts in upper school lunches. If parents think there kids need more than that then the public schools can not accommodate them, they should be told to either deal, homeschool, or seek out a private school that is willing to cater to them.
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