WikiLeaks about to hit the fan

You guys, Finn and BillRM, are absolutely revisionist retards. The concept of War Crimes is 'obscene'? You guys are obscene.

Now hinge, remember how you want us all to **** Hate.

what you've heard all your life in your little echo chamber.

He's certainly not been withholding information

Why do you go on about WikiLeaks and say nothing about the other media that has this same info and is making tons of money off it?

The economic welfare of the USA is not the concern of WLs or of the people or countries that are not the USA.

How such a simple fact could escape you is truly puzzling

Why do you go on about the USA and not the real war criminal nations that do worse ?

Always good to hear your propagan, umm your comm

The concept of War Crimes requires there to be laws or rules of War. Laws of War are intended to enable wars

The concept of "war crimes" is also a means by which the victor gets to take revenge on the foe that he has just defeated.

With the advent of mechanized war the chances of "collateral damage" only increased, and today's "smart" weaponry has reduced those chances only modestly.

In fact, in today's, asymmetrical confrontations one side often incorporates in their war strategy the likelihood that engagement will result in civilian deaths as a political weapon to use against their opponent. The charge of War Crimes has become a potent weapon in the public relations front of ongoing hostilities. The Palestinians have become masters in this Art of War.

Civilians die during war, everyone knows that, but not all of the dead civilians are mere "collateral damage." In many cases - particularly when invasions provoke guerilla warfare - civilians are perceived as the enemy and are treated as such. This practice stands in defiance of the Geneva Conventions. Article 50 states: "In case of doubt whether a person is a civilian, that person shall be considered a civilian . . . The civilian population and individual civilians shall enjoy general protection against dangers arising from military operations . . . Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited." In addition, the Principles of the Nuremberg Tribunal define "crimes against humanity" as: "Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts done against any civilian population."

Examples of civilians killed by the American military could fill volumes. For the purposes of this article, three Asian nations will serve as examples.

Philippines

In the aftermath of the Spanish-American War, the U.S. fought a brutal war of conquest against Filipinos. By 1900, more than 75,000 American troops - three quarters of the entire U.S. Army - were sent to the Philippines. In the face of this overwhelming show of force, the Filipinos turned to guerrilla warfare.

The February 5, 1901 edition of the New York World shed some light on the U.S. response to Filipino guerilla tactics: "Our soldiers here and there resort to terrible measures with the natives. Captains and lieutenants are sometimes judges, sheriffs and executioners. 'I don't want any more prisoners sent into Manila' was the verbal order from the Governor-General three months ago. It is now the custom to avenge the death of an American soldier by burning to the ground all the houses, and killing right and left the natives who are only suspects." In an eerie presaging of Vietnam's hamlets, Filipino villagers were herded into concentration camps called "reconcentrados."

Captive Filipino soldiers and civilians alike were submitted to the "water cure." According to the Philippine-American War Centennial Initiative, this method "consisted of forcing four or five gallons of water down the throat of the captive whose body becomes an object frightful to contemplate, and then squeezing it by kneeling on his stomach. The process was repeated until the 'amigo' talked or died." And if those amigos struck back, the U.S. was ready to up the ante. When a U.S. platoon was wiped out in an ambush, Brig. Gen. Jacob W. Smith, a veteran of the Wounded Knee massacre, issued orders to kill "all persons of 10 years and older."

"The interior of Samar must be made a howling wilderness," Smith declared. "I want no prisoners, I wish you to kill and burn, the more you kill and burn the better it will please me. I want all persons killed who are capable of bearing arms in actual hostilities against the United States."

"The My Lai massacre had its predecessor in the Philippines in 1906," says Howard Zinn. "The American army attacked a group of 600 Moros in southern Philippines - men, women, and children living in very primitive conditions, who had no modern weapons. The American army attacked them with modern weapons, wiped out every last one of these 600 men, women, and children." The commanding officer responsible for this war crime received a telegram of congratulations from Theodore Roosevelt.

Korea

"On summer nights when the breeze is blowing, I can still hear their cries, the little kids screaming," said Edward Daily. This U.S. Army veteran of the Korean War was talking about the killing of hundreds of refugees, mostly women, children and old men at No Gun Ri in Korea on July 26-29, 1950.

"According to Korean survivors' and victims' relatives," says Norm Dixon in Green Left Weekly, "following a surprise U.S. air raid that killed about 100 villagers who had been evacuated from their village by U.S. troops, 300 other villagers, overwhelmingly women, children and old men, had taken refuge in a narrow culvert beneath the bridge."

"The bloody atrocity at No Gun Ri, a hamlet 100 miles south of Seoul, has been known in South Korea for decades," adds journalist Esther Galen, "but a series of pro-U.S. military dictatorships suppressed any public protest or investigation."

The incident came to light when veterans of the U.S. Army First Cavalry Division told their stories to the Associated Press in 1999. Veterans of No Gun Ri told AP that Captain Melbourne C. Chandler, "after speaking to superior officers by radio, ordered machine-gunners from his heavy weapons company to set up near the bridge tunnel openings and open fire. U.S. commanders had claimed there were 'infiltrators' among the villagers." Chandler told his men: "The hell with all those people. Let's get rid of all of them."

Survivors of the massacre told of the experience. Park Hee-sook, a girl of 16 in 1950, said, "I can still hear the moans of women dying in a pool of blood. Children cried and clung to their dead mothers." Chun Choon Ja, 12 years old at the time, said the U.S. troops, "dug into positions over hundreds of yards of hilly terrain" where they could fire on the civilians. "The American soldiers played with our lives like boys playing with flies," said Chun.

"The U.S. Armed Forces Claims Service told AP that there was no evidence that the First Cavalry Division was in the area," Dixon says. "AP reporters using map coordinates from declassified documents have established that four First Cavalry Division battalions were in the area at the time."

The AP investigation unearthed other U.S. war crimes against Korean civilians. "On August 3, 1950," Galen reports, "a U.S. general and other army officers ordered the destruction of two bridges, as South Korean refugees streamed across, killing hundreds of civilians. One bridge ran across the Naktong River at Waegwan." That same day, 7,000 pounds of explosives were used to destroy a steel-girder bridge crowded with "women and children, old men, and ox carts with their belongings."

"These two incidents were not aberrations or the product of exceptional circumstances, but rather characteristic of the entire American military intervention in Korea from 1950 to 1953, one of the bloodiest chapters in U.S. history," says Galen.

Un-indicted war criminal and U.S. Air Force commander in Korea, General Curtis LeMay concurred with this observation, boasting that U.S. warplanes "killed off 20 percent of the population of Korea as direct casualties of war, or from starvation and exposure."

Vietnam

"In all my years in the Army I was never taught that communists were human beings," said Lt. William Calley. "We were there to kill ideology carried by - I don't know - pawns, blobs of flesh. I was there to destroy communism. We never conceived of people, men, women, children, babies."

The date was March 16, 1968. "Under the command of Lieutenant William L. Calley, Charlie Company of the Americal Division's Eleventh Infantry had 'nebulous orders' from its company commander, Captin Ernest Medina, to 'clean the village out'," explains historian Kenneth C. Davis. All they found at My Lai were women, children, and old men . . . no weapons, no signs of enemy soldiers. Calley ordered villagers to be killed and their huts destroyed. Women and girls were raped before they were machine-gunned. By the end of the massacre, hundreds of villagers were dead.

When the truth about My Lai was eventually revealed, Henry Kissinger sent a note to White House Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman: "Now that the cat is out of the bag, I recommend keeping the President and the White house out of the matter entirely." Nixon, for his part, blamed the New York Times - what he called "dirty rotten Jews from New York" - for covering the story. Perhaps what had the White House on edge was best articulated by Colonel Oran Henderson, charged with covering-up the My Lai killings, who explained in 1971: "Every unit of brigade size has its My Lai hidden someplace."

"This was not the only crime against civilians in Vietnam," Davis states. "It was not uncommon to see GIs use their Zippo lighters to torch an entire village." Indeed, My Lai was not an aberration. On the very same day that Lt. Calley entered into infamy, another U.S. Army company entered My Khe (a sister subhamlet of My Lai) and killed a reported 90 peasants. One of the My Khe veterans later said, "What we were doing was being done all over."

In his book, Nuremberg and Vietnam: An American Tragedy, Telford Taylor, chief United States prosecutor at Nuremberg, suggested that General William Westmoreland and others in the Johnson administration could be found guilty of war crimes under criteria established at Nuremberg.

Frankly, there seems to be too much evidence that war is with us to stay and even when its full horror and tragedy is made clear, we still resort to it,

In any case plaintive cries from anguished souls about the horror of war crimes and their perpetrators might be taken more seriously if they weren't always directed at only one nation or alliance of nations and skipped all the attending ideological rants as well.

Isn't the first rule of propaganda that you make your missives coherent?

What you mean is that they kowtow to the government, they hide the crimes of government.

One word, United States of America.

You really don't live in the real world!

the USA gave any reasoned person the opportunity to point them out.