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Cut out the "American People" BS.

 
 
Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:07 am
Is anyone else really annoyed by Boehner, and the rest of the jubilant, smarmy Republicans throwing around the phrase "The American People" as if they speak for us.

Funny thing, after big Democratic victories you didn't hear conservatives talking about how "The American People" want government run socialism.

It is a silly term. The Republicans won big last night. I am not happy about this, but that's politics and I accept it. But their idea that this means that "The American People" love their policies, or even that "The American People" reject all of the Democratic platform is ridiculous. Polls make it clear that there isn't much love for the Republican candidates.

The Republicans won because they got more votes. They did very well with the independents (which is a real accomplishment) and a higher percentage of registered Republicans voted then registered Democrats. There are lots of reasons which include opposition to health care from some Americans, but more importantly the faltering economy and high unemployment.

Polls, that actually ask American people what they want, show lots of support for Democratic policies. A clear majority of Americans support middle cut tax cuts without tax cuts for the rich. There are lots of Americans who support the health care bill, and many Americans who oppose it want single payer health care.

But most of all, I want a Congress that works. I want Republicans and Democrats to work together for the good of the country. They can stand up for what they believe when they have sincere differences.

But as an American person, I don't want to be put in the middle of a mud fight.
 
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:15 am
@maxdancona,
Democrats use the phrase just as often and in similar circumstances. Neither one of them believe the other is a part of "the American people" and are referring to only their supporters when they use it.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:29 am
@Butrflynet,
i think they both use it, but i also think the republicans really believe, for right or wrong, that they are the only true americans
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:39 am
@maxdancona,
Ya; boner has some stupid bullshit... It is just that it is so pitiful having only the democrats to invest with hope when they are like a short armed blind guy in the cage with a gorrilla... Why can't they find anyone like rove who will lie, cheat, steal and pimp his wife for a vote... They cannot be honest, especially after getting in bed with the republicans to produce a non recovery recovery, and a non health care health care bill... You can't help them out, because they sell us out trying to cover their assess... They don't deserve election any more than anyone else, and they don't deserve to get voted out more than anyone else... All we can do is elect one scum bag to defeat another... It is stupid, and it is not democracy... It reminds me of a plumbing company commercial around here... There logo is: We'll exceed your expectations... Considering the professional plumbers I have met, a tin knocker could do that... The only thing that works on a plumber is his mouth...

The parties both remind me of a joke about a funeral... The priest said to the assembled people: I didn't really know the man... Can anyone here say anything good about this fullow... No one said a thing until finally, some one in the back said: His brother was worse...

Is that the best they can say: The other guy is worse... Gollleeey... There is one hell of a recommendation... That is our government, the government of the least worst alternative...
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:44 am
@Butrflynet,
Could you give me an example of where the Democrats have used this term? More specifically, can you show me an example where the Democrats have said the "American People" have rejected Republicans.
Fido
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 10:46 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i think they both use it, but i also think the republicans really believe, for right or wrong, that they are the only true americans

They are making some sort of gooofy mistake if they think they have some mandate to do nothing... The democrats got unelected because they did not fix anything, and even if it was not their problem, it was still their problem to fix... The republicans should not confuse the exasperation, frustration, and anger of the American people with a mandate for obstructionism... People are voting against government that does not work for them as an alternative to getting on a train, or in their cars and going there with guns in hand to settle the issue for good and all... No solution sort of a final solution is going to be a solution...
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 11:10 am
@maxdancona,
Go back and reread many of the speeches and interviews during the health care reform debates.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 3 Nov, 2010 11:10 am
@maxdancona,
Last night's vote was not a mandate from "the American people" in support of the Republican party, although the Republicans will try to characterize it that way. People are generally angry, particularly about the state of the economy, and some took in out by voting against the status quo. That isn't all that unusual for a mid-term election in a president's first term in office.

There isn't much to support with the Republican party because they haven't proposed much. Mainly, they've been opposing rather than proposing, and, if you listened to the Republicans last night, they are very vague about positions and proposals going forward.

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But most of all, I want a Congress that works. I want Republicans and Democrats to work together for the good of the country. They can stand up for what they believe when they have sincere differences.


I think that's what most of us want. And, at this point, it's the Republicans who have to prove that they do "want to work together for the good of the country" because they certainly weren't doing that prior to this election. They have to demonstrate some better ability to compromise and negotiate. They are also going to have to get their act together and come up with well thought out programs of their own rather than simply attacking what Obama and the Democrats offer. A two party system works well only when both parties are equally active and vigorous in generating ideas and proposals.

I can't say that last night's election left me with high hopes for better progress. The Republicans still seem too focused on defeating Obama in 2012 rather than helping to improve things right now. We can also have a situation where the Congress is able to generate legislation which will then get stalled in the Senate, so not much will actually get accomplished.

I think the American people want to see more progress and less partisan bickering. Both parties now have to show a willingness to accomplish that.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 4 Nov, 2010 05:39 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i think they both use it, but i also think the republicans really believe, for right or wrong, that they are the only true americans

Coming from a Canadian perspective and since Canada is allegedly part of the North American continent, should Canadians be considered American? Half Americans? -Americans? Americans?
Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 4 Nov, 2010 08:14 pm
@tsarstepan,
No! We want our Canadian identity to be separate from, and not confused with, the American identity.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 4 Nov, 2010 08:40 pm
@Intrepid,
S'alright. Smile
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2010 02:04 am
Quote:
Cut out the "American People" BS.
OK.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 5 Nov, 2010 09:21 pm
@maxdancona,
Cut out the "American People" BS.

And all that other equally annoying propagandist ****, like "this great country"; God bless America; "the beacon of hope"; ... .

[The three little dots stand for puke puke puke.]
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