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Wal-Mart signifies all that is wrong in America

 
 
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 11:23 am
Good reference, Acquiunk, because it was never really proven that she received any erroneous information which would have lead her to any different conclusions.

ehBeth -- you got it! I don't believe Wal-Mart would want the crusty Tantor to be their PR person. I rarely go there but it's made me think twice about ever going there again. I actually have only visited the local nursery which has a wide quality range of plants and sometimes they come up with a good buy out front. However, overall their claim of having the lowest price is pure propaganda.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 24 Feb, 2004 11:25 am
(Everyone who loves Wal-Mart get your knickers and tennies on and go to it -- let us know the cost of the your time wandering through these megastores. I suppose some people have a low estimate of the value of their time.)
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2004 03:18 am
It took me five minutes to go in get my M&M's and Mountain Dew. Five minutes well spent and it was cheap than going to a gas station. Plus it is right next to the theater which I also went to to see the Passion. Well worth my time.

You people who don't use Wal-Mart keep over spending, I'm sure you are rich enough to single handily keeping those Mom and pop shops open. Good job.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2004 10:38 am
I go to Target and shop online saving much more than wandering around a Wal-Mart. In the case of online shopping, I'm not spending the time driving to and from a store and the prices are cheaper than Wal-Mart. I was in a hurry to buy another "The Two Towers" last year and did buy it online from Wal-Mart. When I bought another copy a few weeks later, I had more time and it took not much more time to find it 15% cheaper than Wal-Mart with not sales tax and free shipping. I don't buy candy and it's hard to smuggle in a bag of popcorn into the cineplex (realizing that to operate these businesses they do have to have snack bar revenue as just the ticket price doesn't cut it). I buy any soft drinks by the case at Costco because of their better selection and very low prices. Wal-Mart is not the beginning or the end of low prices and their service is awful.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2004 04:34 pm
So because you get lost in Walmart, no one should shop there? In the future, look up, there are signs all over telling you what is in each aisle and then pick the correct aisle.
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2004 04:43 pm
There is a Wal-mart two 1/2 miles from my house so it really isn't a hassle to go. Plus I don't sit infront of my computer all day long so shopping online is really impersonal and boring and therefore since I am not a hermit going out of my house is a good thing. Target shut down on my side of town and there isn't another one for a good 15 miles. Guess it wasn't cheaper. And I would order on line but that would mean they have to ship it to me and I am not in the mood to wait however long it is to get something I could have in ten minutes by going to wal-mart. And they are always helpful to me.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 28 Feb, 2004 05:23 pm
Oh, gee thanks McGentrix, I just never thought there were any signs. Who said anything about getting lost? It's find what I want in the quality I want and maybe having someone around to tell me something about the product who knows what they're talking about. Not much chance of that in Wal-Mart. Besides, who told you not to shop there? Or anyone else for that matter. If you believe you are saving money and are satisfied with the quality by all means shop there. Be my guest.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 04:39 pm
For sure, those who think they're in on a great secret because they shop at Wal-Mart should by all means do so. And the rest of us can feel superior for not shopping there.

Sounds like a win-win to me!
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 05:53 pm
superior? <he he he he ha ha ha ha ha ha>
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 06:08 pm
There's more to life than finding the best deal on junk food, BlueMonkey. You may just have to take my word for it...
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BlueMonkey
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 06:50 pm
If only I could take words. what a power.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 07:12 pm
Superior?

I'm not sure that I can feel superior to anyone else because of my shopping choices. They may not have the options or resources that I do.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 09:03 pm
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A snapshot of Georgia's program for uninsured children shows that it's packed with kids of Wal-Mart employees.

A state survey found 10,261 of the 166,000 children covered by Georgia's PeachCare for Kids health insurance in September 2002 had a parent working for Wal-Mart Stores.

That's about 14 times the number for next highest employer: Publix, with 734.

Wal-Mart is the state's largest private employer. But when the top four companies on the list are measured by number of PeachCare children per the number of employees in Georgia, Wal-Mart still dominates.


Wal-Mart Stands Out...
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 09:06 pm
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Wal-Mart, the largest company in the U.S., looks set to pass a new milestone this year: It is well on its way to becoming the biggest business contributor to the 2004 election campaign.

After years of little involvement in federal politics, the Arkansas-based retail giant is currently the largest corporate donor through its political action committee (PAC), having doled out nearly $1.3 million to federal candidates until the end of January, according to Politicalmoneyline.com.

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In late 1999, Senate majority leader Trent Lott, then-Arkansas congressman Jay Dickey and others sat down with the company's management in Bentonville and warned that they needed to find a way to play the Washington game. "We told them they should become a participant in the process before the crises hit," says Mr. Dickey, who lost his bid for re-election in 2002.

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Wal-Mart's political contributions have been spread widely in Congress, with more than 220 members of the House and Senate receiving checks of $1,000 to $17,500 so far this election cycle. About 85 percent of the money has gone to Republicans.


Wal-Mart Gives Big...
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 09:09 pm
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ASK SHOPPERS in Martinez why they shop at the Wal-Mart there and they'll tell you that the prices can't be beat, there's plenty of parking and its one-stop shopping allows them to buy everything from toothpaste to T- shirts.

So why have hundreds of communities across the nation tried to prevent Wal-Mart from moving into their towns? And why, in particular, did the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors pass an ordinance that would ban certain big-box stores larger than 90,000 square feet (the size of two football fields) from unincorporated parts of the county?

Do all these people share some perverse pleasure in forcing consumers to pay higher prices for the food and the goods they buy?

Of course not. The reason is that union members, environmental activists, members of the clergy and elected officials realize that every new Wal-Mart, which brings new jobs and low prices, also comes with hidden costs -- to other retail workers, to small businesses, to smart growth, and most of all, to taxpayers who discover, much to their surprise, that they end up subsidizing the largest corporation in the world.


Wal-Mart vs. Contra Costa Co., CA
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 1 Mar, 2004 09:28 pm
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WOMEN PRESENT EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD DISCRIMINATION AT WAL-MART; ASK JUDGE TO EXPAND CASE TO BE LARGEST EVER SEX DISCRIMINATION CASE

Plaintiffs' Motion for Class Certification Seeks Trial for More Than 1.5 Million Current and Former Wal-Mart Employees

"With demeaning attitudes toward women held by managers at all levels of Wal-Mart, it's little surprise that we found women were being paid less and had far fewer chances of getting promoted into management than men," said plaintiffs class action attorney Joseph M. Sellers of Cohen, Milstein, Hausfeld & Toll, co-counsel for the women. "Wal-Mart needs to clean up its act. This behavior is more reminiscent of the 1950s than the 21st century."

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More than 100 current and former Wal-Mart female employees, from hourly workers to former district managers, provided sworn declarations in support of the class certification motion. The women, who worked at Wal-Mart Stores in 30 states, detail their personal experiences with Wal-Mart's discriminatory practices, including:

**A female assistant manager in Utah was told by her store manager that retail is "tough" and not "appropriate" for women;
**Another manager in Texas told a female employee that women have to be "bitches" to survive Wal-Mart management, while a Sam's Club manager in California told another woman that she should "doll-up" to get promoted;
**Managers have repeatedly told women employees that men "need to be paid more than women because they have families to support":
**A male manager in South Carolina told a female employee that "God made Adam first, so women would always be second to men";
**A female manager in Arizona was told she got paid less than a less qualified male because she "didn't have the right equipment."
**A female personnel manager in Florida was told by her manager that men were paid more than women because "men are here to make a career and women aren't. Retail is for housewives who just need to earn extra money."
**Over objections from a woman executive, senior management regularly referred to female store employees as "little Janie Qs" and "girls";
**Female managers were required to go to Hooters sports bars as well as strip clubs for meetings and office outings;
**The most senior human resources executive at Wal-Mart approves of Hooters as a place to have Wal-Mart meetings;
**In a photo distributed to Wal-Mart employees in the company newsletter, Jim Haworth, now Wal-Mart Stores CEO, is shown sitting in a chair modeled as a leopard skin spike heel.
**A Women in Leadership group, disbanded by Wal-Mart in the mid-1990s, found that "stereotypes limit opportunities offered to women" at Wal-Mart, such as "men are viewed as replacements, women are viewed as support" and "aggressive women intimidate men";...


...and on and on it goes.

The Wal-Mart Class Action website

http://www.walmartversuswomen.com/
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 09:21 pm
Wal-Mart is going down big time which means we will all pay more for everything. Finally the Courts step in under federal fair labor practices.

The only question now is how do we continue to subsidize China's economy?

What if Wal-Mart has to pay a fair wage to their employees will they charge more money for the goods they sell or eat the extra cost?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 1 Jul, 2004 10:35 pm
Sorry, don't mean to be obnoxious, Joanne, but why exactly would I care how WalMart does? As for their employees, land o'goshen, I would like them to have a leg up to another paying job and options for school.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 12:05 am
You know those price cutting ads we see on tv all the time? Has anybody actually seen prices reduced at Wal-Mart?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 2 Jul, 2004 03:05 am
JoanneDorel wrote:
Wal-Mart is going down big time which means we will all pay more for everything. Finally the Courts step in under federal fair labor practices.

I don't understand your "finally". Could you please explain to me why you think Wal-Mart going down is a good thing?

JoanneDorel wrote:
The only question now is how do we continue to subsidize China's economy?

I don't understand this one either. Could you please explain to me why you think WalMart is subsidizing the Chinese economy, and why you think this question matters?

JoanneDorel wrote:
What if Wal-Mart has to pay a fair wage to their employees will they charge more money for the goods they sell or eat the extra cost?

Again, I don't get it. As I understand it, you aren't paying any Wal-Mart employees any wage at all. Wal-Mart is at least giving them a job. And even if the wage isn't fair in your judgment, this job makes them less poor than they would be without it. Yet you, who hasn't given them any job and doesn't pay them anything, appear to be claiming moral superiority over Wal-Mart, who does. Why? And while you're at it, could you please explain to me how you decide whether any given wage is fair or not? I'm asking because I suspect it means "a wage is fair if it's as high as I, Joanne Dorel, feel it ought to be" -- which would raise the question why you think your feelings have any more moral force than Wal-Mart's. But I could be wrong of course.
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