Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 06:48 pm
an estimated 20 million people are currently impacted by the flooding with weather forecasts of 4 more weeks of monsoon rains.The inept government seems incapable of anything, aid is not showing up, the Taliban are escalating civil discord. Afghanistan is next door and Iran is just down the street.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 06:59 pm
@dyslexia,
I fear more Islamist fodder being created. More kids will definitely be pushed into the madrassas funded by Saudi Arabia for their soul buddies the Taliban.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:08 pm
@talk72000,
well talk, I disagree, I don't think Saudi Arabia considers the Taliban as friends. I do think internal chaos will shake the very roots of the Pakistan government and the Taliban will instigate rioting the people by offering them aid, the people are hurting and will accept aid from whoever brings it.
talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:10 pm
@dyslexia,
The Wahhabis are funding the mosques all over the globe with their message of extremist Islam.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:14 pm
@dyslexia,
If the Taliban is smart they will take a page from Hamas, and step in to preform Government duties after the Government fails to do them. And they will show more tolerance then they normally do. This would topple the Government for sure. The reason I have hope is that I dont see the Taliban being this smart. I think the likely result is that no one will do the work, and that the people will suffer terribly. Given the situation this is the best that we can hope for.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:21 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:

The Wahhabis are funding the mosques all over the globe with their message of extremist Islam.
yeah, that has what to do with the current situation in Pakistan?
roger
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
But, that's exactly what the Taliban is doing. Such relief that is getting there is coming through them.
talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:40 pm
@dyslexia,
The families will become destitute and give their children to the mosques or madrassas to feed and brainwash them to be future Talibans.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 07:42 pm
@talk72000,
you on drugs? do you need drugs?
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Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 08:29 pm
@roger,
The USS Peleliu got there a week ago, along with helicopters and 1,000 Marines. I think the UN pledged help yesterday...or sometime this week. Still not enough, though.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 08:38 pm
@Irishk,
how much help do 20 million and rising need? quite a lot I suspect.
Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 08:44 pm
@dyslexia,
It's tragic. I think the Int'l. Red Cross is now involved, also. Park51 has listed a donation site via their Twitter page.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 12:40 pm
obviously the lack of significant aid to pakistan is because some of the aid might get to the taliban. I'm pretty sure Pakistan doesn't have very many nukes so that shouldn't be a problem.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 03:01 pm
@dyslexia,
Quote:
I'm pretty sure Pakistan doesn't have very many nukes
they have enough

Quote:
The U.S.-based Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) estimated that Pakistan had built 24–48 HEU-based nuclear warheads with HEU reserves for 30-52 additional warheads.[30][31] In 2003, the U.S. Navy Center for Contemporary Conflict estimated that Pakistan possessed between 35 and 95 nuclear warheads, with a median of 60.[32]

The NRDC's and the Carnegie Foundation's estimates of approximately 50 weapons are from 2002–03 estimations. In 2000, U.S. Military intelligence estimated that Pakistan's nuclear arsenal may be as large as 100 warheads.[33] The actual size is hard for experts to gauge owing to the extreme secrecy which surrounds the program in Pakistan. In recent developments, retired Brig. General Feroz Khan, previously second in command at the Strategic Arms Division of Pakistans' Military told a Pakistani newspaper the nation has "about 80 to 120 genuine warheads," and also revealed that Pakistan has decoy or dummy warheads to complicate any designs by aggressors.[34][35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 03:05 pm
@hawkeye10,
i'm guessing dys was being sarcastic Wink
dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 04:16 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

i'm guessing dys was being sarcastic Wink
what?


oh




yeah.
that's twice I've done that.
djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 04:52 pm
@dyslexia,
the situation in pakistan is way more complex than most understand, you're right to worry, this goes way beyond a simple (not that it's simple by any means) humanitarian disaster
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2010 04:44 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

an estimated 20 million people are currently impacted by the flooding with weather forecasts of 4 more weeks of monsoon rains.The inept government seems incapable of anything, aid is not showing up, the Taliban are escalating civil discord. Afghanistan is next door and Iran is just down the street.

I say it's time for a vacation to Pakistan!


Disney World Islamabad NEEDS to be built!
[img]Islamabad[/img]
http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/hamas-mickey-mouse-teaches-jihad/
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vikorr
 
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Reply Mon 6 Sep, 2010 02:56 pm
@dyslexia,
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an estimated 20 million people are currently impacted by the flooding ...The inept government seems incapable of anything

I would point out the US response to Katrina was considered by most Americans to be inept...and Pakistan (suffering a catasrophe many times worse than Katrina) by no means has 1/10 of the resources the US Govt had available.
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