jcboy
 
Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 04:04 pm
This film is a must see. It documents how a "tax-exempt" church uses it money and influence to funnel more than 20 million dollars to the Prop 8 cause in California.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tINKrxF000
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GoshisDead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 05:51 pm
@jcboy,
This would be totally outrageous if it weren't for the fact that Almost all P.A.C.s that don't fall into the 501c tax exemptions fall into the 527 tax exemption.

http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/types.php

No point in whining about it all U.S. lobbyist orgs that aren't lobbying for a specific corporate firm get 527 tax exempt status and can funnel as much money as they want towards any lobbying enterprise. This includes the tobacco lobby and N.A.M.B.L.A.

P.S. I'm pretty sure I reported this thread on accident, sorry I didn't mean to
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 06:58 pm
What makes you think morons are hateful? Maybe they just didn't understand what you were saying.
jcboy
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 08:26 pm
@Setanta,
That would make them ignorant Smile
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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 08:50 pm
Didn't watch the video.

I know a number of Mormons, and none of them are hateful. On the contrary.

I don't discuss religion with them.
Well, actually, one person, who I consider a good friend, and I have discussed her beliefs.
That is only because I asked.
kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 09:17 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:
I know a number of Mormons, and none of them are hateful. On the contrary.


This is one of the major problem I have with organized religions. If you talk to members of any group, they seem like reasonable, sweet, intelligent people, and they would never do anything that takes away other people's freedoms or in any way prohibits others from being the way they want to be and doing what they want to do, but then they go and give their money to this group that they trust, and as a collective unit, the dumb **** group ends up taking away rights for gays, women, and anyone else that their religion has a problem with.

The group is a dumb ******* beast, and religion is one of the biggest, dumbest and most repressive.
GoshisDead
 
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Reply Mon 5 Jul, 2010 10:06 pm
The great thing is, that you have the right to form a political foundation or advocacy group to raise money and throw it at any cause you like. That way you can quit bitching about something that is completely within a group's right to do and do something yourself and advocate that which you think is moral and right.
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bmom
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 10:18 am
@kickycan,
i know they seem to be agreeable but to me is is not so shocking of a group that came to my home and assumed to be none pushy and wanted to talk to me about their religion and then proceeded to tell me i needed to quit smoking and then when i agreed to that then told me i needed to give up coffee and anything else i liked to do... i soon told them where the door was... I think all religious groups try to tell people what to do then do what they want behind closed doors
GoshisDead
 
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Reply Tue 6 Jul, 2010 10:20 am
@bmom,
That is the other awesome thing. You have the right to show people the door.
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