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The Anti-Christ movement

 
 
mimidamnit
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 09:32 am
@JBeukema,
JBeukema;67176 wrote:



:rollinglaugh: You just argued that the bible is a pile of **** and you don't even know it ! :rollinglaugh:


HAHAHA!!! carico must be reeling by now lol:rollinglaugh:
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JBeukema
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 10:28 am
@Carico,
YouTube - Evolution Theory and Fact
Carico
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 11:07 am
@JBeukema,
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They didn't come from imaginary beings. You're correct in saying my evidence doesn't state that. The evidence all points to Mankind evolving from real organisms


If the common ancestors aren't figments of the imaginations of men, then who are they? Describe them, name them and tell us how many there were. Wink
Whip
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 12:24 pm
@Carico,
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"Evolution is a fact." - Video voice


"Theory means fact[paraphrased]" - Video voice

"Evolution is both a theory AND a fact" - Video voice

"So no, the theory of evolution cannot be proven 100%". - Video voice.

If it cannot be proven - it is NOT a FACT. It is a belief.

New species might appear from time to time, but that does not mean they have evolved from something lesser into something greater. A mutation, (one of the things Video voice uses as an example of evolution), is not necessarily the result of evolving from one creature into another. There has been no IRREFUTABLE scientific EVIDENCE OF ONE CREATURE EVOLVING INTO ANOTHER IN THE HISTORY OF THE STUDY OF EVOLUTION. To say that a creature or plant changed or morphed does not mean it has evolved. There are some creatures, such as the caterpillar, which morph into butterflies. This is not an evolution, it is a genetic predisposition.

One thing in favor of the "Creationist" is: If we are wrong, we have nothing to lose. But if we are right, evolutionist have nothing to gain, but everything to lose.

Happy trails.
Carico
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 02:48 pm
@Whip,
Whip;67208 wrote:
If it cannot be proven - it is NOT a FACT. It is a belief.

New species might appear from time to time, but that does not mean they have evolved from something lesser into something greater. A mutation, (one of the things Video voice uses as an example of evolution), is not necessarily the result of evolving from one creature into another. There has been no IRREFUTABLE scientific EVIDENCE OF ONE CREATURE EVOLVING INTO ANOTHER IN THE HISTORY OF THE STUDY OF EVOLUTION. To say that a creature or plant changed or morphed does not mean it has evolved. There are some creatures, such as the caterpillar, which morph into butterflies. This is not an evolution, it is a genetic predisposition.

One thing in favor of the "Creationist" is: If we are wrong, we have nothing to lose. But if we are right, evolutionist have nothing to gain, but everything to lose.

Happy trails.


Amen. Smile Since nothing superior can come from something inferior, then evolution is not only a lie, it's not even a subtle lie. :rolleyes: Thus, evolution is an accepted myth.
JBeukema
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 10:10 pm
@Carico,
Carico;67200 wrote:
If the common ancestors aren't figments of the imaginations of men, then who are they? Describe them, name them and tell us how many there were. Wink


Evolution -- Transitional Hominids
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JBeukema
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 10:12 pm
@Whip,
Whip;67208 wrote:

New species might appear from time to time, but that does not mean they have evolved from something lesser into something greater.


Only retards like you ever speak of 'lesser' and 'greater' - which you have still failed to define.

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There has been no IRREFUTABLE scientific EVIDENCE OF ONE CREATURE EVOLVING INTO ANOTHER IN THE HISTORY OF THE STUDY OF EVOLUTION.



observed speciation - Google Search


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One thing in favor of the "Creationist" is: If we are wrong, we have nothing to lose. But if we are right, evolutionist have nothing to gain, but everything to lose.

And if the Vedas are right, Mr Pascal?Wink
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JBeukema
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 10:13 pm
@Carico,
Carico;67209 wrote:
Amen. Smile Since nothing superior can come from something inferior, then evolution is not only a lie,


We eagerly await your definitions and demonstration Wink
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mimidamnit
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 11:16 pm
@Carico,
..so here we are arguing over theory.. or fact.. hmmm.. my question is this.. how can one believe in "divine creation".. and deny "evolution"?.. i mean seriously.. we're debating over what's proven or not proven, right?.. so.. how is creation proven? how is it proven more than evolution?
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mimidamnit
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 11:19 pm
@Carico,
oh and here is my demonstration of "superior from inferior".. and i say it with sarcasm. .because i dont believe the "bible" is the absolute truth.. ...eve from adam.. superior from inferior.. DUH!!!. ( im kidding guys hehe)
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JBeukema
 
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Reply Fri 31 Jul, 2009 11:45 pm
@Carico,
Menstruation disproves God.

An intelligent and loving god would not have come up with a design that requires menstruation, but would have found a better solution...
mimidamnit
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2009 04:49 am
@JBeukema,
JBeukema;67230 wrote:
Menstruation disproves God.

An intelligent and loving god would not have come up with a design that requires menstruation, but would have found a better solution...


i have to agree.. lol:rollinglaugh:
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thomascrosthwaite
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 01:08 am
@Carico,
Carico;66959 wrote:
Dogma is blindly believing everything scientists say even though it contradicts reality. Sorry. Wink
Wrong Carico. It is the other way around. Science is not absolute. Religion is. A science texbook written ten years ago would not be the same as one written today, because new things have been found out, and thing that were believed 10 years ago might have been found to be untrure or not like they were once believed to be. Learning,Speech,&Attention Defects | Man with learning disabilities, communication disorders, ADHD, becomes author
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David cv
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2009 03:48 pm
@Whip,
Whip;67145 wrote:
Had you read/comprehended what I wrote you would have quickly noted that I was referring to Darwins THEORY, (with THEORY being typed in bold face). I would not think there a need to reiterate the word THEORY everytime I wrote of evolution in that post.

OOPS....You forgot to mention that Standard Model is a THEORY. THEORYS are not considered facts. At best they are fanciful thought. Not a proven science; not considered a possibility or probability because there are few to no links to connect them to reality. REALITY is not connected to THEORY!


Theory = Fact
Hypotheses = Idea or Guess

:thumbup:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 11:51 am
@David cv,
David;67726 wrote:
Theory = Fact
Hypotheses = Idea or Guess

:thumbup:


Not quite.

Theory = Tested hypothesis


both theories and hypothesizes are concepts that interpret and explain observed facts.

Contrary to popular belief, a scientific law is NOT a proven theory, this belief is incorrect. A law is a theory that is expressed mathematically. For example, gravity is both a theory and a law.

Law of gravity: F = G(m1m2)/r2

Gravity (as theory): The natural force of attraction between any two massive bodies, which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.
David cv
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 12:47 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;67768 wrote:
Not quite.

Theory = Tested hypothesis


both theories and hypothesizes are concepts that interpret and explain observed facts.

Contrary to popular belief, a scientific law is NOT a proven theory, this belief is incorrect. A law is a theory that is expressed mathematically. For example, gravity is both a theory and a law.

Law of gravity: F = G(m1m2)/r2

Gravity (as theory): The natural force of attraction between any two massive bodies, which is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.


You're close.

A law is an observable occurrence. The Law of Thermodynamics, the Law of Gravity, the Law of Relativity, ect.

Theories on the other hand describe the factual mechanisms as to how they work. For example the Law of Evolution states that all life adapts or dies. The Theory of Evolution describes how it adapts. Most people mistakenly use theory and hypotheses interchangeably, the result being people like Carico thinking that evolution hasn't been proven because 'it's just a theory' when being 'just a theory' actually means it's been proven.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:44 pm
@David cv,
David;67772 wrote:
You're close.

A law is an observable occurrence.


No an observable occurrence is a fact.

A law is a mathematical statement.


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The Law of Thermodynamics, the Law of Gravity, the Law of Relativity, ect.
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Theories on the other hand describe the factual mechanisms as to how they work.


correct.

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For example the Law of Evolution states that all life adapts or dies
.

There is no "law" of evolution. There is a "theory" of evolution.


You are conflating laws with facts, they are two entirely different things.

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The Theory of Evolution describes how it adapts.


correct.

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Most people mistakenly use theory and hypotheses interchangeably, the result being people like Carico thinking that evolution hasn't been proven because 'it's just a theory' when being 'just a theory' actually means it's been proven.


correct.
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