Why have people come to percieve god as good?

Another blatant lie.:rolleyes: 2 Peter 1:16, "We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of Lord Jesus Christ. We were witnesses to his majesty."

So since you cannot prove that Peter didn't witness Christ's life and words,

Another blatant lie.:rolleyes: 2 Peter 1:16, "We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of Lord Jesus Christ. We were witnesses to his majesty."

So I'm not going to listen to your lies any more because lies aren't valid arguments any more than they can change history, God, or your eternal fate. In fact, lies don't help anyone, least of all the liar. So since you cannot prove that Peter didn't witness Christ's life and words, then your claims are nothing but slander. They're a desperate attempt to avoid condemnation. So I'm done here for awhile.:rolleyes:

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You're using a quote from the bible to prove the bible is right! This is cute.:p





Guess what this is? It's circular reasoning, a form of begging the question.

Begging the question: Definition from Answers.com












And you can't prove that he did.

In the absence of evidence I will take a stance of disbelief.

That's like saying that you can't use biographies of Julius Caesar to prove that Caesar existed because the biographies are based on the presupposition that Caesar existed which is circular reasoning. :rollinglaugh: So by your "reasoning" Caesar didn't exist. :rollinglaugh: Do atheists even think? :eek: Obviously not. :rolleyes:

The OT showed mankind that we are sinners who live to please ourselves rather than honor God and His creation and thus, all deserve death. The NT shows us that God forgave us for those things even though we don't deserve His forgiveness. So Jesus died for those who hate him which is the epitome of complete and total selfless love.

That's like saying that you can't use biographies of Julius Caesar to prove that Caesar existed because the biographies are based on the presupposition that Caesar existed which is circular reasoning. :rollinglaugh: So by your "reasoning" Caesar didn't exist. :rollinglaugh: Do atheists even think? :eek: Obviously not. :rolleyes:

Wow... Can't he just do it one way? Why does he keep changing his mind? I think he is bipolar, that would explain it.

Because the OT is a shadow of the realities found in Christ. God needed to show us that we all deserve death and cannot be perfect on our own. So he then sent us a savior.

Well yes but how about using biographies on Achilles? or other Greek heroes?

According to atheists, no one in history existed since we can't use biographies of anyone in history because they come from the presupposition that those figures lived which is called circular reasoning. :rollinglaugh: And that's why atheists make up a history of their imaginations instead.

Another strawman. I'd like to see where anyone has stated that. Ever.

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And for the record I never said jesus didn't exist, I said there was scant evidence of him which is true. But the whole point you're missing is just because someone writes about someone else doesn't make them a historical reality. As far as I'm concerned Jesus is in the same category as King arthur, both may be based on real people but the story and events surrounding them are exaggerated or mythicized.

Obviously you are unfamiliar with the concept of corroborating evidence. Without corroborating evidence nothing can be verified.

According to atheists, no one in history existed since we can't use biographies of anyone in history because they come from the presupposition that those figures lived which is called circular reasoning. :rollinglaugh: And that's why atheists make up a history of their imaginations instead.

You are generalizing, according to ONE ATHEIST. I don't believe that, I believe we must have faith in past generations to record their lives, as they hopefully have done well by now.

Reality is a result of personal observation.

"Truth" is always individual at the human level.

It's not until you learn to wiggle out of that human glove that you begin to see a wider perspective than was afforded to you inside the glove.

You'll trade personal desire for a kind of hive mentality. About humanity as a whole. Because you now see the interconnectivity of ALL things.

Individual things like race or religion have no further meaning.

Most will not see this level in their lifetime.

They'll spend their lifetimes trying to reform an earth which doesn't need to be reformed.

It needs to be trancended and left behind. This is the single biggest spiritual trap for any seeker. The gravitational pull of worldly involvement.



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