No Such Thing As A Christian

It doesn't operate that way.

A book is a menu for what is available from the kitchen. It cannot feed you itself. Only a living master has the authority as the "word of God". Only from such a person can spiritual nutrition flow. All else is an exercise of the mind's ability to calculate.

A master belongs to no religion. This individual is the completion of a human existance, forged over many lifetimes as a diamond is put against a wheel to form many facets.

By the time it leaves, it has been transformed from rough stone to radiant soul.

Just as it arrived here as. Your true natural state. Not this human costume you've attached yourself to like Linus's blanket.

The journey of human existance through many lifetimes is but one of the carnival rides available to those who have no attachment. It's all there, waiting.

For those who desire none of it, but for the moment, the "kingdom" is wide open.

Anything is possible.


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I don't smoke and I don't drink coffee.

Perhaps you should try to deconstruct what I say rather than deconstruct me?

Your holy book is nothing but obstacle to what God is. It is belief that creates the illusion of separation. It is belief that must be plowed under for the realization if God to take place.

Christianity and Judaism are strange bedfellows, you know. Judaism has more in common with Islam than it does with Christianity. The only reason we're buddy buddy right now is the political force that comes from it.

Has nothing to do with "God".

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I am asking for evidence of the creators son.

Now I have done some research and looked at the above names. Guess what? No eywitness accounts.

Let me show you


66-74 CE, Christian Era right? So I am guessing this is betwwen 32 and 40 years after Jesus died, hardly eyewitness material is it?


Ok some more here: Windmill Ministries - Christian Apologetics

Notice the running theme here with the dates in question. ALL are after the event, second, third and forth hand stories.

One of the 'Greatest' Historians of his time Cornelius Tacitus:Windmill Ministries - Christian Apologetics

Again look at the dates.

Where are the written down and documented Eyewitness accounts? This man was seen by thousands of people, he was the son of 'GOD'. Why isn't there one single eyewitness account?

With the names you have given me, you have further demonstrated to me that there was never a man called Jesus.

Don't you think if there was even one single account the Christians followers would be citing it on a daily basis, proof of their lord and saviour?

But relying on Historians 30+ years after and event as evidence is week, especially when they weren't even there.

You can do better than that i am sure, so keep them coming.

Demonstrate to me the Son of God existed through historical documentation outside of the Bible and I will have to sit up and take note, and surely I will.

I do think there was a person named Jesus, Isa, etc, who had traveled far and wide and brought back ideas foreign to the brittle world of scripture and priests.

The teachings are identical to what a realized person would talk about. One exposed to eastern philosophies.

The problem isn't with Jesus, it's with Christians and Christianity and their interpretation of what Jesus is supposed to have said.

They've constructed this exclusive world where a holy book is the item sitting on the throne.

Jews and Muslims are just as guilty.

It's a "book" that guides your path, not a living word of God.

You will suffer the consequences accordingly.

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My goodness! Aren't we enthusiastic to learn?

I am more than happy to continue your education.

The closer relationship of Islam and Judaism is a matter of fact. I suggest you research it. Christianity is seen as flawed by the other two.

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Then as now, God is an experience, not a belief.

You have to drop belief to get the experience.

Few are brave enough to go naked. Even atheists must drop the idea they're an atheist.

It has become my natural state. The only way you will understand it, is to become the same.

Only then will you come to understand that when referring to the living "God", there is no "who". That implies duality. You understand that your human point of view is just an extension of this singular conscious force.

It can manifest in over 6 billion individual human lives and not even blink.

One consciousness. Many forms.

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Show me the records please.

Do you believe the entire Bible is false? Where is your eyewitness accounting that explicitly refutes the events recorded in the Bible?

Where is your eyewitness accounting that explicitly refutes the events recorded in the Bible?

What is your evidence that the Bible is untrue?

Do you believe the entire Bible is false?

Historicity of Jesus - Conservapedia

Try this. You won't be convinced though since you require eyewitness accounts in the original hand.

How about you proving the account in the Bible is false.

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Wow, blown out the water in the first paragraph, thanks for proving me correct.

Remember this man is supposed to be the Son of the Creator of the Universe. You know how big that is right?

Well do you not think it a little odd that you are unable to provide first hand accounts of him?

Asking someone to prove the existence of a person mentioned in the most widely published book on the face of the earth without using the evidence provided in that book or the thousands of books that were translated into that book is like asking someone to prove that 2+2 =4 without allowing them to use the numerals 1, 2, 3, or 4 or any symbols that represent those numerals.

There are eyewitness accounts recorded in the Bible. Your choice not to believe the Bible is not my problem to solve.

A lack of belief in the truth does not negate the truth.

Choosing to stop being a Christian does not mean there are no Christians unless you believe you are the universe and therefore a god unto yourself and anyone outside of you is non-existent. I believe there is a Psychological term for this. What could that term be??

No, Like RED you have failed to provide evidence outside of the Bible. As I said, provide evidence that corroborates the stories in the Bible and you have a case. So far you have not.

Check Mako's posts and threads out. That there is some extensive evidence which corroborates his ideas.

Ok so you need to be a christian in the first place to stop being one, something I have never been.

Enlighten me, what would be that Psycological term be?

The universe is bigger than one dude in sandals you know

My reply was to several posts by different people.

As I said, your lack of belief is not my problem. It does not obligate me to prove my belief to you. The fact that I believe is not changed by the lack of belief in another person. Your choice is your choice, you can deal with it in whatever manner you wish.

By the way, you should capitalize Dude when speaking of your Savior. If you insist on using that type of word to refer to the Son of God. Just a recommendation.

Not my savior, when you start spouting rubbish like that then I will challenge the existence of some dude in sandles.

You said he existed, you believe he existed, you use 'evidence' in the BIble to 'prove' his existence.

So, my challenge is to provide the 'other' evidence which will substantiate your claims.

Prove there was a Jesus, and I will belive there was a man by that name (so far you have failed)

When you manage to prove he existed the next challenge is to provide evidence he was the son of a deity.

Over to you.