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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jan, 2008 08:19 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;51157 wrote:
If science has no proof it has no more credibility than religion.


On the subject where there is evidence science certainly does have an enormous amount of credability. Subjects where science doesn't have any evidence feel free to believe whatever you want without guilt.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jan, 2008 08:34 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;51177 wrote:
On the subject where there is evidence science certainly does have an enormous amount of credability. Subjects where science doesn't have any evidence feel free to believe whatever you want without guilt.


Always feel free to believe whatever you want without guilt. If you don't want to believe everything scientists say, nothing is wrong with that.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jan, 2008 08:38 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;51182 wrote:
Always feel free to believe whatever you want without guilt. If you don't want to believe everything scientists say, nothing is wrong with that.




No disagreement here.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2008 10:29 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Here's one for you science disciples: How can you prove all your thoughts are correct? I mean all of them? If you can't do it, then by your own logic, I shouldn't listen to a damned thing you have to say here, right?
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jan, 2008 03:20 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;51713 wrote:
Here's one for you science disciples: How can you prove all your thoughts are correct? I mean all of them? If you can't do it, then by your own logic, I shouldn't listen to a damned thing you have to say here, right?


we can't prove that gravity isn't caused by millions of tiny invisible gnomes pulling everything down.

Everything can only be proved beyond reasonable doubt, if you want to have unreasonable doubt that's your problem.
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jan, 2008 12:01 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;51713 wrote:
Here's one for you science disciples: How can you prove all your thoughts are correct? I mean all of them? If you can't do it, then by your own logic, I shouldn't listen to a damned thing you have to say here, right?


The same can be said for any belief.

Why do you believe in God? Can you prove everything in your religion to be correct... of course this means all of it.

If you want to see why science says something, look at the research and evidence. We say certain things because that's what the facts and evidence point towards. Science never claims to be unchanging and infallible... things change all the time, new knowledge unlocks previous unknowns and gives us more information on what we already know.

The trick here is that you are trying to hold science on a religious platform. Science needs not be held to such a task. Religion is what claims to be infallible, the word of God is perfect. All science asks is you back up your claims with evidence.

That has yet to be done.

If one small piece of a scientific theory is invalid or needs to be change, such does not invalidate the entire theory. In fact, it makes the theory stronger. However if one piece of a religious text, one which is inspired by a perfect being, is fallible, then the whole thing falls apart.

Religion also has this odd knack of taking a premade conclusion, i.e. God created all, etc etc, and then searching for evidence that points directly to that. Any evidence to the contrary is discredited, thrown out, or twisted to fit the aforementioned premade conclusion. Nothing whatsoever can change the initial conclusion that the whole thing is based upon.

Science has no premade conclusions. They are drawn from the evidence and facts shown and called a theory. All evidence, through peer review, has the ability to change these theories.

Look, I'm really sorry if the story of creation and Genesis doesn't pan out, but them's the breaks. You've gotta let your security blanket go someday.
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