Will your God have a New name at End Time?

No

No, he is not. The concept of ?the Word? as the second member of a trinity is common in most of the ancient religions that predated Judaism and Christianity. ?The Word which produced the world? is what the Tibetan sacred writings have to say on the subject. Speaking of the God Mercury, the Greek writer Amelius said ?He was the Logos (the Word), by whom all things were made, he being himself eternal. He was assumed to be with God and to be God and in him everything that was made has its life and being, who, descending into body, and putting on flesh, took the appearance of a man, though still retaining the majesty of his nature.? The ?Word made flesh? was set forth much clearer than in the New Testament, however Psalms 33:6 says, ?By the Word of God were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the Breath of his mouth.? Here, traceable to ancient oriental religions is the concept of the Word as the Creator and the concept of the Word and Breath as synonymous terms.
It was anciently believed that the Word and Breath of God were the same, and possessed a vitalizing power, which, as they issued from his mouth, might be transformed into another being known as a secondary God. Both the Jews and the Christians seem to have inherited this belief, as evinced by the foregoing quotations from their bible. The ancient Brahmins, in the most ancient tradition of the Word, taught that the Word emanated from the mouth of the principal God and became flesh/took form for the special purpose of serving as the agent of creation or put another way, became the creator of the external universe. This is precisely the idea John used. The teaching of the Hindus was that the Word had existed from all eternity with God and became, when spoken, a glorious form; an aggregate embodiment of all divine ideas and performed the work of creation. It is affirmed of the Hindu Savior-God, Krishna, that ?while upon the earth, he existed also in heaven?. This idea was echoed in the ancient Egyptian religion, while the Chinese bible states, ?though the Holy Word (Chang-si) will be born upon the earth, yet he existed before anything was made?. Even Pythagoras followers believed that he existed in heaven before he was born upon the earth. All the old religions believed the world was created by the Word, and that this Word existed before creation.

Sorry, the erroneous belief that ?Global Warming? is man-made is merely the vehicle of Al Gore?s Presidential aspirations. We may be in a warming period following the ?Mini Ice Age? that ended in the late 19th century, but we are no where as warm as conditions were in the 11th century?they farmed in Greenland, for Thor?s sake! Try that today! And this was before mankind was populous or pumping ?Greenhouse gases? into the atmosphere! Something the Greenies don?t want the public to know!

No?there is no evidence that mankind has ever received word from any deity, whether directly or through an intermediary. There is no evidence that a Moses ever existed and no evidence of either a Jewish enslavement in Egypt or a ?Exodus? or ?Conquest of the Promised Land?. Biblicists have been searching for evidence of the three for over a century with absolutely no luck! The Creator gave us true free will and to interfere with us would remove that free will.

Revelation is mythology and wasn?t accepted by the Churches until the 15th century!

Yeah, but I don?t expect one and if there is one, it better be a doozy such as making every woman in the world look like Ashley Judd or some such movie star and every man look like Brad Pitt or some such movie star!

The End of the World is a common belief among all religions, but the Christians have really made a ?career? of End of the World predictions:

2800 BCE ? An Assyrian clay tablet declares, ?Our earth is degenerate in these latter days, there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end. Bribery and corruption are common.
634 BCE ? Many Romans believe Rome will be destroyed 120 years following it founding as foretold by twelve eagles that once appeared to Romulus, each believed to represent 10 years,
6th Century BCE (actually written in 2nd Century BCE) ? The Book of Daniel predicts the End of Time. He declares, ? I kept looking in the night visions and behold, with the clouds of heaven, one like the Son of Man was coming [7:13]. The author also mentions that many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt. [12:2]
Early 1st Century CE??? ? Jesus declared, ?This generation shall not pass away until all will be fulfilled.? Early Christians believed the End would occur during their lifetime. Jesus also said, ?Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.? [Matthew 16:28]
66-70 CE ? The Essenes, a Jewish ascetic sect with apocalyptic beliefs, man have interpreted the Jewish revolt against the Romans as the final battle.
70 CE ? The founder of the founder of the 19th century Opeida sect, John Humphrey Noyes, claimed the Second Advent had already taken place with the fall of Jerusalem (naturally, with only believers seeing it).
Late 1st Century CE ? The Book of Revelation foretells an apocalypse followed by the creation of a new heavens and a new earth.
The ecstatic Montanists held that Christ was to arrive during their generation and was to appear at Pepuza, in Phrygia (in modern Turkey), designated by the group as ?New Jerusalem?.
247 CE ? As Rome celebrates it?s thousandth anniversary, persecutions increase against Christians, making many of them believe the world was coming to an end.
365 CE ? The famous Christian saint, Hilary of Poitiers, believes the world would end this year.
380 CE ? A North African sect, the Donatists, asserted this year marked the End.
Late 4th Century ? St. Martin of Tours declared, ?There is no doubt that the Antichrist has already been born. Firmly established, already in his early years he will, after reaching maturity, achieve supreme power.?
500 CE ? Julius Africanus (160-240) theorized that the world would end approximately 6000 years after the creation of the planet, hence the Second Coming would occur around 500 CE ? The Christian apologist Irenaeus as well as Hippolytus also held to 500 CE as the date of the return of Jesus Christ.
793 CE ? The Spanish monk Beatus of Lieband prophesied the end of the world on Easter eve 793, causing the present crowd to panic. Everyone fasted throughout the night and were relieved to discover they were alive and well the next day.
848 CE ? The prophetess Thiota believed 848 was the final year.
970 CE ? Catharingian felt they had calculated the exact date of the end of the world, with Christ?s arrival set for Friday, March 25 970 ? for coincidentally both the celebration of the Annunciation and Good Friday shared this very same date. Furthermore, they were confident that this day also marked Adam?s creation, Isaac?s sacrifice, the Red Sea?s parting, both Jesus?s conception and crucifixion. They figured how could the End of Days manage to miss such a well-established tradition?
992 CE ? Bernard of Thuringia believed the consummation of all things would occur in the year 992.
1000 CE ? Many Christians in late antiquity and during the early medieval period (including St Augustine) were sure that the year 1000 marked the end of the world. Panic gripped many in western Europe and some people even left their homes to wait for the arrival of Jesus in Jerusalem.
1033 CE ? When Jesus did not arrive a thousand years after the date of his ?calculated? birth, various Christian mystics asserted that the end would occur a thousand years after his Crucifixion. The entire early eleventh century was a period of constant rumors that the end was near (as recorded by the Burgundian monk Radulfus Glaber).
1100 CE ? Somehow the year 1100 became the next year believed to mark impending doom for all humanity.
1184 CE ? Rather than Christ, 1184 was the date set for the arrival of the Antichrist.
1186 CE ? john of Toledo foresaw the end of the world as encoded within the cosmos, noting that the planetary alignment occurring in Libra on September 23, 1186 would spell certain doom.
1200 CE ? Once again, the end predicted based on the neatness of the numbers matched in hundreds. One of the advocated of this date was Italian mystic Joahim of Fiore (1135-1202), but he also added the end could happen as late as 1260.
1284 CE ? It is recorded that Pope Innocent III expected the Second Coming to occur 666 years following the rise of Islam ? and so calculated the year 1284.
1290 CE ? Followers of Joachim of Fione decided their mystic really meant 1290 to mark the End.
1306 CE ? Establishing the idea that the beginning of the Millennium began with the advent of Roman emperor Constantine?s reign in the year 306, Gerard of Poehide(in 1147) determined the release of Satan would occur about 1306.
1335 CE ? Not willing to give up on their teacher?s calculations, the followers of Joachim of Fiore extended his predictions to 1335.
1366 CE ? French ascetic, Jean de Roquetailiade determined the Milennium would start between 1368 and 1370, with the Antichrist?s arrival set for 1366.
1367 CE ? Militz of Mromeriz, a Czech archdeacon, asserted the End would occur around 1367.
1378 CE ? Once more, the followers of Joachim of Fiore (now called Joachites) cam up with yet another date ? this was set by
Arnold of Vilanova, in his De Tempore Ativento Antichristia in his reinterpretation, the antichrist?s reign would begin in 1378.
1420 CE ? The Taborites (directly related to the Hussites of Bohemia) predicted the finality of all things to occur in 1420 and calculated this event right down to the month, February. The main proponent of this belief was the Czech prophet Martinek Hausha.
1500 CE ? Enamored by the mystique of the double zeros, 1500 became the next target date of the end.
1524 CE ? According to certain English astrologers, the end of the world would begin in London on the first of February. The report is that 20,000 people fled their homes, expecting the first sign to be a giant flood. February 1st ended up being a relatively calm, rainless day. Because of the planetary alignment with Pisces, astrologer Johannes Stoeffler determined the End (again with a flood because Pisces was considered a water sign) would occur on Feruary 24th.
1532 CE ? Aviennese bishop by the name of Frederick Nausea believed the end was near when he heard about crosses dripped in blood manifesting beside a comet.
1533 CE ? During this period in general, a group called the Anabaptists began to predict the end of the world on various dates. The End occurring in the year 1533 was advanced by their prophet Melchior Hoffman, who thought Christ would first come to Strasbourg. According to his theology only 144,000 people would be saved, with everyone else burned by fire.
1534 CE ? Another Anabaptist, Jan Matthys, calculated the End on Easter Day, April 5, 1534. Only those at Munster would survive the impending destruction.
1583 CE ? At exactly noontime on April 28th 1583, with the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, Christ was supposed to come again, at least that?s what astrologer Richard Harvey thought.
1600 CE ? It is recorded that Martin Luther believed the world would end before 1600.
1603 CE ? Tomasso Campanella, a Dominican monk, had this hot notion that the sun would collide with the Earth this year.
1648 CE ? A rabbi from Smyrna, Turkey, by the name of Sabbatai Zevi calculated using the Kabbalah that the Messiah would appear this year and that his Messiah was indeed him!
1666 CE ? The Great Fire of London this year only encouraged Christians and Jews alike to believe the End was at hand; in a rare display of ecumenical apocaplyptism. Jews believed the Messiah was to appear and Christians expected the second coming of Christ. Christians simply figured that the first 1000 years represented the millennium and that if they added the number of the Beast, 666 to this number, they would reach the time of the Apocalypse.
1694 CE ? The German prophet Johann Jacob Zimmerman believed Jesus would return this year in the New World, after intensive biblical as well as astrological studies. He gathered pilgrims to accompany him to America, known as the Woman of the Wilderness, but died before they could leave. Johannes Kelpius took Zimmerman?s place and led everyone to the Americas, but Jesus never appeared.
1697 CE ? Famous witch hunter Cotton Mather believed the End out occur this year.
1733 CE ? Long before, Sir Isaac Newton predicted the End for this year.
1736 CE ? William Whiston of Cambridge said the Apocalypse would happen on October 13, 1736, destroying the Sodom of what was London of his day.
1757 CE ? Emanuel Swedenborg in a mystical vision, was told 1757 was the big year!
1763 CE ? George Bell, a follower of John Wesley, prophesied that this year marked the End.
1792 CE ? The Shaker?s designated apocalyptic year.
1805 CE ? Presbyterian minister Christopher Love, in the 17th century foresaw this as the final year.
1814 CE ? Joanna Southcott, the 64 year old virgin prophetess, believed October 19th would mark the day of the re-birth of Christ and that she was chosen to hold the new baby Jesus. Furthermore, Jesus was to be born on Christmas Day. While she did look pregnant, she wasn?t and actually died of dropsy on Christmas Day.
1834 CE ? First date set by William Miller for the End.
1836 CE ? Second date set by William Miller.
1843 CE ? Third date set by William Miller.
1844 CE ? Fourth year set by Miller ? and set for March 21st, but after no arrival, re-set for October 22nd.
1856 ? The Crimean War was believed by many to be the Battle of Armageddon predicted in the book of Revelation.
1874 CE ? Charles Taze Russell, founder of the group that eventually became the Witnesses of Jehovah, proclaimed that Christ had indeed returned this year ? But spiritually speaking.
1881 CE ? The End of the World according to some Jehovah Witnesses.
1891 CE - Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, estimated in 1825 that the Second Coming would occur in about 56 years which brings it to this year.
1896 CE ? Michael Boxter, in his book, The End of This Age About the End of This Century, set the Rapture for this year, with 144,000 real Christians worth of this journey.
1900 CE ? The Brothers and Sisters of the Red Death, a Russian cult, believed this year was the End of the World ? specifically on November 13th. In this belief, over 100 committed suicide.
1908 CE ? a grocery store owner in Pennsylvania y the name of Lee T. Spangler believed the fires of Hell would consume the earth this year.
1910 CE ? Many believed Halley?s Comet was the sign of the End of the World. Some even claimed that the comet was poisonous and took ?comet pills? to protect themselves.
1914 CE ? Some Jehovah Witnesses saw World War I as the Battle of Armageddon.
1919 CE ? Meteorologist Albert Porta believed the conjunction of six planets would trigger a magnetic tug that would destroy the earth on December 17, 1919.
1925 CE ? The angel Gabriel appeared before Margaret Rowan and told her the world would end on Friday the Thirteenth.
Herbert W. Armstrong, founder of the Worldwide Church of God, believed the Rapture was a scheduled to occur this year.
1939 CE ? World War II was seen as the beginning of the End of the World.
1953 CE ? Agnes Carlson, founder of the Canadian Sons of Light, predicted this year as the End.
1954 CE ? Dorothy Martin, leader of the Brotherhood of the Seven Rays, predicted a giant flood would destroy the Earth on exactly December 21, 1954.
1959 CE ? The Founder of the Davidians, Victor Houteff, believed the End was near, but after his death, his wife Frances established the date as April 22, 1959. Many gathered on Mount Carmel near Waco, Texas, but nothing happened.
1966 CE ? The Nation of Islam believed sometime between 1965 and 1966, the apocalypse would happen destroying the United States.
1967 CE ? According to the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, the Kingdom of Heaven was to be established this year.
1970 CE ? In his book ?The Late Great Earth?, Hal Lindsey said that the End of the World was taking place now.
1973 CE ? The guru of the Children of God, David Berg, believed the United States would be destroyed by a comet this year.
1981 CE ? Chuck Smith of Cavalry Chapel of TV fame predicted the world would end in this year.
1988 CE ? In his book, ?88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988?, Edgar Whisenam argued that Jesus would return on Rosh Hoshana, between September 11 and 13.
1989 CE ? Since Jesus did not return in 1988, Whisenam revised his figures, because of a anomaly in the Gregorian calendar, to this year.
1990 CE ? Whisenam next predicted this year as the End.
1991 CE ? Whisenam tried again, predicting this year as the End.
1992 CE ? In a fourth try, Whisenam predicted this year.
1993 CE ? Figuring that the odds were with him, Whisenam predicted this year.
1994 CE ? In his last try, Whisenam predicted this year and when this year came and went, quite trying?.His book sales had tanked by then!

Heaven?s Gate has not been mentioned. Along with several other recent cults and predictions, but this will show you why non-Christians take Christian worries and predictions of the End with a grain of salt and a sarcastic laugh! Incidentally for those worrying about 2012, the Mayan?s did not predicate the End of the World.:patriot:

God has his celestial name and has been given many names by the ancient religions. I personally refer to him as "my Heavenly Father." My kids call me Mom, Mother, Ma, etc. My friends call me by my first name. My business associates call me by my given name. My husband calls me honey. What's in a name????

If you are Christian and believe that this world will be transformed into it's celestial glory that's not the "end of the world"! It might be the end of the earth as you know it but not the end of the world.

Global warming??? What does that have to do with our Heavenly Father? That is utter nonsense. The earth experiences climate changes on a regular basis. Go figure! You think that your car is doing all of the damage. Nope! Go back a few thousand years.... Where were the cars then? That's like saying AIDS is God's punishment to gay people. It's not. It's gays punishment to gays! Or anyone else who has unsafe sex.

Why would anyone need a miracle to recognize the second coming of Christ? If you are close to your Heavenly Father, you will know. If not, you won't believe anyway.

The religion is not a new religion that will be started. It will be the same as was in the pre-existance. Before this earth was created. Nothing to worry about accepting... Just believe and have faith in what you have always been taught.

The very Own Bible points out that Jesus will return at the end of time (However the actual translation not the bastardized version we read in the bible is) The end of the age. Taking it in PROPER context this tells us that jesus is the savior of the people of this age, those in the next will have new savior.

Nice huh...

I will follow no God that drowns millions of innocent children, puppies and bambi's because he couldn't control his creation. I will follow no god that punishes the entire human race for the mistake(mistimeaner) of Adam and Eve and I will follow no god that tests humans by asking them to kill thier own child when he could simply look into their hearts and know whether he is faithful or not. I will follow no God that murderings innocent first born children because the he hardened the pherohs heart to not let the Jews go. I will follow no god that is considered a mass murderer and serial killer. No matter what magic tricks he showed to me, not matter how almighty he is or created me or the heavens.

I would gladly accept the death of my soul if that acutally existed then to be associated with this pychopath.

star Trek!!!!!

FUKKING A RIGHT DOGGIE>

IF THAT IS YOUR GOD< I SAY YOU ALL CAN KEEP HIM (Barbaric Scream)

Those who went with Noah did not drown. They had their personal free agency to listen to him.

Man will be punished for his own sins and not Adam's trangression. I will be punished for my own sins not for anything that Adam and Eve did. They answer for their own as well. Same for you.

For every action there is a consquence. Good or Bad.

Every time you send your child out the door you are testing yourself as a parent. Did you arm him with even common sense, values, and standards to help him make the correct decisions?

Tests are just that. Abraham had shown that he had a tendency to "push" God about things and to be the father of the chosen people God needed to know he would follow all commandments. Maybe Abraham was testing God as well to see if he would make him do something that he had been commanded to never do - take innocent life.

This life is about tests - starting with Adam and Eve. It's also about free agency. It's up to you what grade you get!

Yes we are punished for Adam and Eves sin. Don't you read your bible. Men use to live where he did not have to work to survive. Everything grew without toiling the soil now because they at the apple they and all their children toil the soil to survive. Eve did not have labor pains before the apple insident and now all women must feel the burden of labor pains for the punishement of Eves transgresion. Women are suppose to obey the man and follow them because of the apple. You really should pick up that book and brush off the dust.

I certianly will answer to nothing from this god if he existed. God can kiss my ass and I will pull them down and show it too him. I have absolutley no respect for this sick twisted being.

God did not tell anyone else to build the Ark.. Only Noah because only Noah was free from sin if you believe in that myth. Even if people listened there would not be enough room on the Ark to save people.

What is your idea of correct decisions. Parents can raise their kids perfect and they still make mistakes. I know many christians girls who get abortions behind their mothers back. Their parents were ethical and moral and just but their kids made a mistake and instead of facing their parents because their parents act like they are perfect and without sin they get abortions to hide it. The parents never know about it. Believe you kids are making bad decisions all the time they just cover it up and to think that they wont is just putting your head in the sand.

We are sentient being we are toys to be "tested". God is an abusive parent and beats his children and smits them for doing nothing more than complaining to much.

Let me ask you something. If god told you to go kill a bunch of preschool children. Would you do it??

I plan to fail the grade on purpose because I think this creep is a fraud. IF he is real he is a flim flam artist. He is an Alien posing as a god because he had no morals and values of any God with real responsibilty that I know of and if he is really legit he still sucks and I will spit in his face.

He can torture me in hell, kill my soul. I do not care I will not follow such a sick twisted being anywhere not matter what kind of terrorist acts he commits on me or my family.

Period.

Mako

End time has nothing to do with the end of the physical world.

It is a message of renewal and rebirth and an end to woes.

This earth if not immortal, is forecasted to live for many more generations.

Regards
DL

By which Religion. Or does it mater?

Regards
DL

I thought that Jesus had already had His chance to make Christians believe that He was the redeemer and savior of the world. He failled. Most Christians are still waiting for a redeemer or savior.
Go figure.

Regards
DL

From your view, no one would blame you.
Try reading the Bible non literally and you might get a different picture.

Try thinking that Eve made the right choice and if you can get past this then you will likely understand the rest.
The Bible is both the Christ and the Antichrist. It is to us to dither out who is speaking.

Regards
DL

My scriptures don't have any dust on them.... Now, don't ask me about my coffee table...

Yes, Adam and Eve did partake of the forbidden fruit which set in motion the fact that we would live in a terrestrial world instead of a celestial world. But, I don't consider it punishment that I was then able to come to this earth and gain a body. I could have chosen not to do so in the pre-existence. Labor pains? Yes, having had children I experienced them. Punishment for having them? No, not to me. I could have chosen to use anesthetics but didn't.

I guess it is all in how you look at it as to whether you consider your lot in life as a punishment from and unjust God or a gift from a loving Heavenly Father.

Having raised five children I know about free will. We taught them values, standards, and good work ethics. But, that's all we can do - teach and lead by example. They have their free agency to act as they will. But, they also know that with every action comes a consequence.

I feel bad that you are so bitter and have no desire to understand the personal and loving side of your Creator. You seem to have no problem in believing all of the what you perceive as bad things about him but cannot accept any good. But, guess what? With all of your hateful feelings he will still love you as one of his children. Isn't that the way it is with our earthly children as well?

That book is so full of holes you couldn't shoot at it. I don't believe any of that nonsense. I just like pointing out what the christians refuse to see. I know that book forward and backward and it doesn't impress me one bit because I am not blind. I do not follow leadership simply because it claims to the God or claims to have created me. That is not an excuse for the the things to happen either literal or metaphorical. I give the bible two thumbs down in all catagories.

Christians have been waiting for Christ to return for over 2,000 years. They just can't stand to be wrong and accept the guy was not the son of God.

As for the anti-christ I do not believe in this either. These fables and fairy tales make the human race look retarded. If there are other intelligent beings out there the only reason they haven't contacted us is because all the religious supersticious nutjobs make the entire human race look like morans. It is time to grow up and stop holding on the the blanky like a frightened 2 year old and accept that there is no after life, we do not get to see our loved ones when we die and there is no paradise for being a good person.

People looking for a reward for being a good person are not truly good people. They are acting like good people to get a reward. it is selfish.

it is those who act out of kindnesss, be a good person and live a good life knowing that there is no reward at the end for them who are truely the good people.

I use to search for a crutch so I did not have to face death or believe in make belief beings that would bring justice to the bad guys. It is an illusion and I refuse to delude myself into not accepting reality of this Universe.

All this hockus Pocus is just a way for humans to keep from facing their worst fears. It is called denial.

good luck with that.

I will face reality 101 please.

I cannot remember the movie but here is a quote from it.

"When something Good happens, Its gods will, when something bad happens, Well God works in mysterious ways."

Where is the acountability of God.

Recently in Illinois a 5 year old girl was found bleeding and nearly ripped in half (Metaphoric ripping in half) she had to Doctors best guess been raped for several hours.

Here is a problem, Alll you god fearing folks KNOW that god is all powerful.

Why the **** didnt that faggot stop this?

If you say free will, i say **** off, why? Because Why would god allow THAT kind of free will happen to a 5 year old kid?

If you say it was satans doing, then are you saying God cant stop satans work?

End of message here, IF that is your god, **** you ALL you can keep him.

(This is possibly banning material here, if its the case take care everyone)

First of all he is not my creator. Maybe your creator but I completely think this being is a flim flam artist an no creator of anything but his ego to try and control and abuse the human race.

Second of all. What punishement do young children deserve for being molested raped and beaten?? hMM?? tell me what on earth did little children do to have their male family come in and put their hands down their pants when they were sleeping or being forced to suck a guy off to get out of her crib??What does a kid do to deserve a raging alcoholic mother who calls her a slut, whore, bitch, worthless and accuses her of doing things she never did and when the little girl denies these accusations she gets slapped, kicked, burned , starved and mulalated?? I am so tired of hearing Christians claim that people did it to themselves. You sin now here is your punishment crap!! God it is so annoying and irratating. The ignorance is sickning.

I have been that little kid those things happened too and I use to believe in the garbage of your god that if you prayed he would help you and make you strong and all that crap and nothing. For years tears rolled down my eyes because no one came to help and you know what I realized. He is not real. This is all a scam for suckers and when I realized this I become much stronger. I got the courage to get away from it myself.

I have done bad things in my life and cursed god and blasmaphy and nothing happened in fact I got a nice home, a good husband, healthy kids and growth. It is a bunch of scare tactics. There is no punishment for free thinking and criticizing and talking bad about god. It is a boggy mans tale. Hogwash. To frighten the ignorant and the supersticious and you fall for it and put yourself in this little box and then think you are so selfrightious to show everyone this path to illusion.

Do yourself a favor and stop playing in the fantacy world and get out there and have fun and break some rules before you die because when it is all over.. game over!! You keep wasting your time on rules and regulations to get that juicy reward that isn't there.

I will have fun in this world and do what I feel like within human laws and die knowing I took full advantage of this one life.

Many do not recognize the philosophy of the Bible. It is well hidden and hard to dither out.

This has little to do with their inherent goodness or evilness.

God is happy to be searched for. Not finding a right path is forgivable when there are so many.

Keep it up. He is watching.
You should not read the Bible literally. There are no talking snakes.
From this vantage point you may see further.

Regards
DL

It because the little 5 year needs to learn a lesson.. no wait satan did it, here is a good one that is in the bible.

The children will suffer for the sins of the parent.

The excuses for gods failure or how about this one.

It wouldn't happen if eve and adam hadn't ate the apple.

Blah blah blah... they don't care about logic or holding anyone accoutable especially if it breaks their illusion that god is perfect and has this wonderous plan for all of us.

no one is watching me. You sound like the paranoid dude who thinks the government is tapping his phones.
Even if he was I would continue my rant and I will tell him off. I don't like this dude one bit and I have no idea how Jesus came about. Jesus was a good guy and compassionate, understanding and tolerant. I have no idea how one came out of the other??

I am not afraid of him or anyone else like that not matter what punishment he doles out. I will not be threaten with hell or have my kids raped and my money taken way to make me do what he wants. Nothing like that will ever make me submit and if he is real he knows it because he can see it in my heart.

If god wants my faithfulness and attention he has got alot of explaining to do. If he does not think I am worth the time to explain himself to he is not worth my time to respct his authority.

I am not of this being listening or watching me. :beat: in fact if I knew he was I would break more of his rules just to spite and test him!!

I will not be contained in a box ever again as I did when I was a child. I have a brain to ask questions and to think logical not to blindly obey some being who claims to be someone I cannot prove he is and who is obviuosly unethical.