Honor, adore and worship. Why?

Would you like to be honored, adored and worshiped just for being what you cannot help being?

I worship the sun.

At least the sun can be seen, felt and even heard. I know that without it, I would not last very long. You could try to argue that god made the sun but there is absolutely no proof or evidence to back up that claim so it is nothing different than saying there is a 13 month of the year and there is a 35th day of the month and there is a 63 second minute.

I don't care about any god or gods and I think anyone who troubles themselves over such things are only doing a disservice to themselves and to anyone around them.

Don't the religious use these terms as tools to humbly frame their god(s) as higher than themselves? And isn't this done with an assumtion that they will get something in return for their faith?

Thing is, if the sun does not know it is being worshipped then you are wasting your worship. I do not mind your view of God but why worship something that cannot acknowledge it or even care?

Well isn't it possible that if a god created everything that it could possibly not care? I think it's funny that many theists argue that I am not capable of understanding god, but then they turn around and say god is all loving, all knowing, benevolent. Isn't it possible that if a god were behind everything that it is a cruel and vindictive one, who meant to create a system of suffering and hardship on purpose just for his own enjoyment?

Multiple reasons...to move towards self-actualization, to gain benefit, to be loved. Your parents, significant other, etc. cannot help be but what they are and you adore, worship, and honor based on the sustenance and love, i.e. value they have provided. Also, if you fail to adore, worship, and/or honor, then that which cannot help but be what it is, may just decide to kick you out on the street.

I don't adore, honor, or worship a pebble in my shoe because it has no value to me. Things that have value, that provide a benefit are honored.

Krumple wrote:

Well isn't it possible that if a god created everything that it could possibly not care? I think it's funny that many theists argue that I am not capable of understanding god, but then they turn around and say god is all loving, all knowing, benevolent. Isn't it possible that if a god were behind everything that it is a cruel and vindictive one, who meant to create a system of suffering and hardship on purpose just for his own enjoyment?

I agree as it is all just speculation. Beyond that, who is to say that if there is god, that he created everything - or anything? All just speculation... and perhaps some bit of faith, I suppose.

Hi Greatest,
I believe in myself - Therefore all the things I believe I believe. I do not honour or worship myself in any way that I can think of, for I have long forsaken the proud and vain attributes of my youth. But I do obey myself. How can I not?
As for a third party God - I think that those without the discipline or courage to believe in themselves must have something to help them through the day.
Even if I were naive enough to prove that God did not exist. I would never tell anyone that needed God so.
We each have our own way of perceiving reality and corrupting the realities of others is detrimental to our own personal journey.

Each to their own, my friend.

What is the purpose of worship, though? Is all of its meaning directed towards the entity receiving the worship?

While I don't actively worship anything myself, I think there can be value in the act of worshipping for the worshipper. Meditation, a sense of meaning a purpose, a sense of community, a sense of structure, lots of other things.

Faith without facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

mark noble wrote:

Hi Greatest,
I believe in myself - Therefore all the things I believe I believe. I do not honour or worship myself in any way that I can think of, for I have long forsaken the proud and vain attributes of my youth. But I do obey myself. How can I not?
As for a third party God - I think that those without the discipline or courage to believe in themselves must have something to help them through the day.
Even if I were naive enough to prove that God did not exist. I would never tell anyone that needed God so.
We each have our own way of perceiving reality and corrupting the realities of others is detrimental to our own personal journey.

Each to their own, my friend.

Not a good attitude at all.

You would leave these victims on their own.

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqGhcwwE1s

For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

I do not see a good man speaking here.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote:

Faith without facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

Then, from time to time, I will dabble in foolishness.