Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Mon 14 Oct, 2002 12:10 pm
It's so hot here

I'm wondering if I'm already in Hades!
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Rae
 
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2002 07:30 pm
Craven.....You are

NOT helping with the sparkling image I am trying to project.....in my own eyes, yes, but that's

beside the point.....

You are NOT hot.....you are COOL with

white fluffy clouds all around.....Can you see it yet?

CONCENTRATE

Very Happy

Laughing Rolling Eyes
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maxsdadeo
 
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Reply Sun 1 Dec, 2002 01:43 am
How many Cravens do we have to save and what do we get if we do?
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Rae
 
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Reply Sun 1 Dec, 2002 01:47 am
My undying thankfulness. Embarrassed
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 1 Dec, 2002 07:39 am
Sorry Rae - that just won't cut it ..... what do we get in cold, hard cash if we save him?








.......oh - what if he doesn't WANT to be saved? Does it matter if we have to muss him up a bit?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 1 Dec, 2002 08:31 am
I envy all you guys that get to go to Heaven. I hope some of you will fondly remember my cinder as one that at least tried.
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Asherman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Dec, 2002 09:22 am
Heaven is often regarded as being the presence of God. Conversely, Hell is to be eternally banished from God's presence. The followers of Abraham, the True Believers, expect that they will go to heaven on the basis of their faith, all the rest are doomed to eternal darkness.

The certitude and arrogance of the Abrahamic faiths is astounding, and a plague upon humanity. The other day we saw a bumper sticker that read, "Truth, not Tolerance". Why be tolerant, if you have possession of TRUTH? The missionary zeal of this chauvinistic brand of religion has been effective largely due to their willingness to force their beliefs onto others. Compulsion and ideological straight-jackets of the mind are the premier tools for the followers of Abraham. These religions are not only bent upon the destruction of all other religious beliefs, they are dedicated to destroying all other varieties of Abrahamic faith. This is the crux of the Middle-Eastern problem, and the foundations on which Bin Laden built a terrorist network.

The Black Death destabilized the feudal system built upon Christian dominance of society. During the following centuries, Europeans began to think for themselves and to question the authority of the Church. Printing and questioning of authority gave rise to hundreds of new interpretations of what Christianity was about, how it should be practiced, the True means of Salvation, and what Man's proper relationship should be to God. The Wars of the Reformation killed almost as many people as the Plague. Torture and murder to enforce minor theological points was common. By the Enlightenment the people of Europe were so sick of religious warfare, that the idea of separating Church and State became a fundamental plank in the American Constitution. The People need to be protected against any religious compulsion. Abrahamic Faiths thrive on compulsion.

Craven doesn't need to be saved from Hell. He may even be hold some sort of Abrahamic belief, and be as likely a candidate for Heaven as those of you who want to save him. For my part, I only hope that we all will not suffer any more than is absolutely necessary. May we all see clearly the causes of suffering, and be able to root those causes out of our lives. Let us limit our desires, control our greed and anger. Nurture patience and tolerance. Tolerance is achievable, TRUTH is much tougher to know - even a little.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 1 Dec, 2002 10:39 am
One factor that allowed people to learn to think for themselves came about when the Bible was translated for all to read. Today many non believers see that collection of works to be a mental straight jacket, but it does contain much wisdom interspersed throughout if one has the patience to ferret it out.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 10:52 pm
Does Craven still need saving? You all decide.
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husker
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jan, 2004 11:05 pm
watching
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 12:18 am
Are we saving him for a rainy day - or freezing him for later consumption?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2004 05:45 am
Ever hear the one about the man who went to a mission? He asked the minister if he saved bad girls. The minister said that indeed he did.

So then the man says to the minister, "Could you save me a couple for Saturday night???" Laughing
husker
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2008 09:57 pm
@Phoenix32890,
anyone saved yet?
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2009 09:42 am
Actually, the concept of an immortal soul is not supported by scripture.
Hence, no eternal torment.

When your're dead, your're dead.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 7 Feb, 2009 09:56 am
From yesterday's e-mail:

A West Texas farmer dies and, being a heathen, goes to Hell. When he gets there its 95 F with 90% humidity, but Satan notices he's kicked back on the brimstone relaxing comfortably.

Satan asks, "Why aren't you miserable like everyone else here?"

The farmer replies, "Oh, this is like a warm spring day in West Texas. I like it."

Angry, Satan turns up the thermostat until its 100 F and 95% humidity. Still, the farmer's happy. "This is like a good June day on the farm. Not bad at all."

Furious, Satan turns it up to 105 F and 99% humidity. Everyone is even more miserable, except the West Texas farmer still resting.

"Hey, this is like a good August day on the farm bailing hay. Feels good the hotter the better."

In a total rage, Satan turns the thermostat down to minus 25 F.

Within seconds, the air becomes chilly and frost appears, soon followed by solid ice everywhere. Satan smirks, watching the farmer.

The confused farmer looks down at the frozen ground for a moment, suddenly jumps up excitedly, looks around everywhere and begins to laugh, scream, and jump for joy.

"TEXAS TECH WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!"

______________________________

So.....Craven should pack his overcoat and mittens for the trip, but unfortunately there is little to do to prepare to spend eternity with Texans.
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