@jeeprs,
jeeprs;172643 wrote:You're forgetting 'The Fall'. OK I am not turning evangelical on you here, I don't necessarily read this the same way as they do. But I have no doubt that this is a representation of a major factor in 'the limits of human experience' and kind of a boundary condition of being. This is why a Christian would say, there is no use trying to penetrate this by mere intellect. Your intellect is part of the problem, not part of the solution. The crucial change has to happen on the level of the heart, the seat of being, which they say is accepting Christ. In Buddhism, it is expressed differently and without the peculiarly Augustinian angst that Christianity has introduced to it (which equates The Fall with sexuality, which is a whole other minefield....)But it is very similar in some crucial respects, one being that no amount of discursive intellection will set you free from this condition...it has to happen on the level of 'heart'.
Sexuality? That's the fall? So god creates a man, and then god creates a dichotomy by creating a female? And since he supplied them reproductive organs, it was their sexuality that created the fall?
god:
"Now that you both are fully equipped and anatomically correct in every way I don't want you to use those parts for anything."
So Adam and Eve go romping in the bushes since they are completely bored with their existence? God returns to find them making out behind the oak tree?
god:
"What the hell are you doing? Didn't I say not to use those parts for anything?"
Adam:
"It was all her fault, she talked me into it, said I would enjoy it."
Eve:
"Yeah like you wouldn't stop staring at me."
god:
"Enough, now that you discovered the one thing in which I completely hate and disgusts me, you will now have to endure pain, of death Adam and the pain of birth, Eve."
Sexual desire is chemically driven biological process. It is natural. Sure you can suppress it but it has been documented that doing so can create other psychological problems. Some people can transcend their sexuality though but most who are able to, had very little sexual desire to begin with which probably makes it less problematic. However; not everyone is the same.
Seems silly to have a biological tenancy that is considered "evil" if you enact it.