@richrf,
richrf;69369 wrote:Hi innocent,
There are completely different ways to view Life, than the perspective that you propose. I do not want to turn everything inside out, in a short paragraph, but as I beginning to understand Eastern philosophical perspective, you might want to view this very cheerful little video that I put on my blog:
The Evolving Universe | My Meaning of Life and Philosophy
If Life is a circle, and every path travels a different path on this circle, there are an infinite ways to look at life. Maybe you will come up with your own very unique way of understanding mistakes, blame, learning, etc.
For me, life is a Game, an Experiment, a Way to Explore that what we are. Some people do come up with some very crazy ways to explore and experience Life. My job, is to keep a nice distance from the wildest ones out there. They might steal something from me.
Rich
Hi Rich,
Thanks for the link, and for the positive message. From 2001 until about 2006 I studied and promoted happiness, so I understand your desire to maintain and defend the joy and richness of life. And I certainly don't want to steal that from you or anyone. For example, I believe in an afterlife, and I believe that we all go to a kind of blissful heaven. I have no way of proving this, let alone providing any but the most anecdotal evidence that this belief is true. I simply believe it because it's the best possibility I see for the afterlife, and I'd prefer to see what's unknowable in the most positive light.
But, I advocate for an understanding of a determined will not to steal people's joy, or to simply defend a point of view. I have what I consider to be a very compassionate reason. Do you ever come across a news story about a man who was wrongly convicted of some crime, and spent decades in prison before he was ultimately discovered to be innocent and released? Well, if you have, I would imagine that you feel a great deal of compassion for that person, and you probably feel that a huge injustice was done him.
The unfortunate corollary to the belief in free will is that every single person who is now or has ever been in jail or prison is really as innocent as those individuals you hear about in the news. The tragedy of the belief in free will is that we attribute blame to people who were compelled to act as they did, and then often punish them for decades as a result. I'm not advocating we abandon our criminal justice system, because we do have to protect ourselves and each other from those who commit crimes. But if we adopted the truthful position that our wills are completely determined by factors completely out of our control, we might redesign a criminal justice system that is not so unfairly cruel.
There are, of course, other ways the belief in free will harms us in our daily lives. How many times have we blamed a friend for what was ultimately not in his power to control? I've got to read B.F. Skinner's book
Walden Two, where he describes a society built on deterministic principles that are more compassionate than the free will principles our current societies are based on.
But, again, I want to emphasise that happiness is very, very important and that if believing in free will is necessary for that happiness, then that is very understandable. As a hopeful alternative, I intellectually abandoned the idea of free will over a decade ago, and I have at the same time become a very, very happy person. I am now in the process of trying to integrate that intellectual understanding that our wills are determined into my everyday life, and I am beginning to find that it brings me joy.
Rather than taking pride in my accomplishments, I feel grateful. Rather than becoming angry with my friends when they do something I feel is wrong or hurtful, I become angry at the fate that caused them to act that way. I'm very far from fully integrating that perspective, but I am already beginning to see a positive change in my life from it.
I believe we can all live much happier lives through the truth of determinism than the belief in free will. But I guess I'll have to explain and defend how this is possible, and I can't at all blame anyone who doesn't accept this perspective (as if they had a free will :sarcastic:)
I think I'm gonna start thinking about starting some new threads comparing a determined will perspective with a free will perspective.
Stay happy!