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What makes a god?

 
 
Reply Sat 13 Jun, 2009 09:39 pm
There is a fairly recent animated series out there by the name of "serial experiment lain" written by a Chinese philosopher (his name escapes me at the moment). the setting is in the near future about a year after "the wired" is created. The wired is, in theory, the next step along the Internet, it is essentualy a "virtual Internet". The story starts out basically until the protagonists friend starts a wave of people "leaving there physical bodies" and supposedly appearing on the wired. then the story turns into a series of "philosophic monologue's" about how the barrier between the physical world and the wired is slowly deteriorating. The fallowing is direct copy of one of the monolouges that relates the this discussion...
"the earth, while orbiting the sun has its own specific electromagnetic waves between the ionosphere and the earths surface there is a constant resonance at a frequency of 8Hz in the ELF band range of frequencies this is called the Schumann resonance. However the extent of the effect on humans of these "earth brain waves" that the planet gives of is impossible to quantify and remains a mystery. The human population of the earth is closely approaching that of the number of neurons in the brain. Douglas Rushcoff proposes that the consciousness of the earth its-self might be awakened when all humans on earth become collectively networked and resonate at the same frequency. The evolution of the network would follow a neural model path, and just as the neurons in the brain are connected by synapses, the earth its self would become a single neural network... Masami Eiri, chief researcher at tachiban general labs, further developed the hypothesis of a world-wide neural network. His hypothesis proposed a wireless network whereby all humanity would be plugged in at an unconscious level without need of any device..."
so it is theoretically possible that mankind could form a collective whole wherein everyone would be connected in a physically virtual interface without the need of programmers, we would essentualy be self-evolving programs in a network. everyone of us would be an essentualy program executable for a specific goal...
in the series there is also a "god" of the wired who supposedly abandoned his physical body to control the wired. he has no influence on the physical world but is fully capable of modifying the wired. in essence his is the administrator for the wired. if our history were to in the near future produce a network "the wired" and then have the barrier between the wired and the physical world disappointed the only influential person "god"
would in theory retain his powers into the new collective whole and be able to essential with his abilities persuade people to follow his way. in essence in that situation he would be god.
Here is my question what amke a god a God?
Are gods only Gods because they have fallowers/believers?
Can we prove the existence of the said gods?
If someone has power over the physical world does that make them a god?
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William
 
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Reply Sat 13 Jun, 2009 10:21 pm
@articwind4,
articwind4;68968 wrote:
There is a fairly recent animated series out there by the name of "serial experiment lain" written by a Chinese philosopher (his name escapes me at the moment). the setting is in the near future about a year after "the wired" is created. The wired is, in theory, the next step along the Internet, it is essentualy a "virtual Internet". The story starts out basically until the protagonists friend starts a wave of people "leaving there physical bodies" and supposedly appearing on the wired. then the story turns into a series of "philosophic monologue's" about how the barrier between the physical world and the wired is slowly deteriorating. The fallowing is direct copy of one of the monolouges that relates the this discussion...
"the earth, while orbiting the sun has its own specific electromagnetic waves between the ionosphere and the earths surface there is a constant resonance at a frequency of 8Hz in the ELF band range of frequencies this is called the Schumann resonance. However the extent of the effect on humans of these "earth brain waves" that the planet gives of is impossible to quantify and remains a mystery. The human population of the earth is closely approaching that of the number of neurons in the brain. Douglas Rushcoff proposes that the consciousness of the earth its-self might be awakened when all humans on earth become collectively networked and resonate at the same frequency. The evolution of the network would follow a neural model path, and just as the neurons in the brain are connected by synapses, the earth its self would become a single neural network... Masami Eiri, chief researcher at tachiban general labs, further developed the hypothesis of a world-wide neural network. His hypothesis proposed a wireless network whereby all humanity would be plugged in at an unconscious level without need of any device..."
so it is theoretically possible that mankind could form a collective whole wherein everyone would be connected in a physically virtual interface without the need of programmers, we would essentualy be self-evolving programs in a network. everyone of us would be an essentualy program executable for a specific goal...
in the series there is also a "god" of the wired who supposedly abandoned his physical body to control the wired. he has no influence on the physical world but is fully capable of modifying the wired. in essence his is the administrator for the wired. if our history were to in the near future produce a network "the wired" and then have the barrier between the wired and the physical world disappointed the only influential person "god"
would in theory retain his powers into the new collective whole and be able to essential with his abilities persuade people to follow his way. in essence in that situation he would be god.
Here is my question what amke a god a God?
Are gods only Gods because they have fallowers/believers?
Can we prove the existence of the said gods?
If someone has power over the physical world does that make them a god?


Great post articwind and welcome to the forum. Glad to have you. This individual is right on to a degree. Let me ask you as you question "what makes a God". Consider the universe ONE. And we are a part of that one. In that we view God as separate, it is hard to realize. Now realize you are a part of that God. Not that God, just a part; not apart. All of the chaos in the world is because of this perceived separation. Chaos is not harmonic or resonant by a long shot. As we, humankind begin to harmonize with each other, we begin to harmonize with that God we are an "extension" of. Call God the "overseer", the "core", the "brain" of it ALL. It's all about forward, harmonic momentum. We, the "trinity", God, the Earth and us are a part of that continuum where ever it might lead. There is no future expect that one we make in harmony with each other God and the universe. We are meant to travel in lock step. We must harmonize or resonate with it for it does not harmonize or resonate with chaos (us) in our present state, YET. That's what life is about, getting into lock step. 6.500,000,000 going in different directions in absolute harmony with everything, yet each totally different. How am I doing so far?

William
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sarathustrah
 
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Reply Sat 13 Jun, 2009 11:56 pm
@articwind4,
yes william... my belief is parallel to yours.

i just want to comment that "power" is what people usually give to gods... all it takes is a twist of what you consider your definition of God to be. it would be accurate to describe someone as godly even if they cant turn water into blood... but would you call david copperfield a god cause he can make an elephant disappear?

i think its healthier to go with williams viewpoint of the Source as i call it.

and to keep the definition of god and godly to mean someone with profound positive impact on existance as we know it.

the Source of all there is doesnt need to be a God to be appreciated.
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