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idiosyncratic, smartass, definitions

 
 
Reply Mon 25 May, 2009 12:18 pm
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vajrasattva
 
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Reply Wed 3 Jun, 2009 01:58 pm
@henry quirk,
i like that

thanks
henry quirk
 
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Reply Thu 4 Jun, 2009 09:15 am
@vajrasattva,
you're very welcome... Wink
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Paggos
 
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Reply Sun 28 Jun, 2009 07:04 pm
@henry quirk,
But how do you know it is really truth. Humans perceive it as truth, but it can't be natural truth. Though the definition of truth is human so i guess it'd come under our definition of truth.
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parker pyne
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 10:48 pm
@henry quirk,
Are we allowed to contribute our own? Cynical ones, even?

fable /noun/
a fictional story intended to convey an underlying motto. An anthology of fables is called a Bible.

hope /verb/
an act of blindfolding yourself in subservience to your own happiness.

coherence /adjective/
something your debating partner obviously lacks.

pessimism /noun/
a constant negative outlook on life. Extreme pessimism discourages breathing.

armchair /noun/
a philosopher's natural habitat.
richrf
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 11:09 pm
@parker pyne,
fact: something that is certain to be true.

truth: something that is an obvious fact.

belief: something that one person considers a fact that is contrary to another person's truth.

Used in a sentence:

It is a fact that truth is a belief.
parker pyne
 
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Reply Mon 29 Jun, 2009 11:36 pm
@richrf,
richrf;73534 wrote:
fact: something that is certain to be true.

truth: something that is an obvious fact.

belief: something that one person considers a fact that is contrary to another person's truth.

Used in a sentence:

It is a fact that truth is a belief.

A definition I found in a book that I took to heart was: "A fact is just something that has passed a standard of proof".

With your definitions, it seems like "truth" and "fact" is synonymous, but I disagree. Truth necessarily entails a level of infallibility, while fact is just the most reliable information available. In other words, a fact is assumed truth. A fact can be falsified, truth cannot.

When you say "contrary to another person's truth", you're saying that two contradictory truths can exist, but I see that as logically impossible.
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Theaetetus
 
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Reply Tue 30 Jun, 2009 12:18 am
@richrf,
richrf;73534 wrote:

belief: something that one person considers a fact that is contrary to another person's truth.


Beliefs have nothing to do with facts. Facts are necessarily true, and beliefs are not, thus, a belief is indifferent to whether it is true or false. The contrary to another person's truth is also total unnecessary to the definition. Another person is unnecessary to the concept of belief. All it takes is one person for a belief to be formed.
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Anais
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jul, 2009 05:24 pm
@henry quirk,
Fact: An idea that has not been adequately disproven, and is accepted by the majority.

Belief: subjective truth.

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When you say "contrary to another person's truth", you're saying that two contradictory truths can exist, but I see that as logically impossible.
This is why "logic" creates concepts such as the "paradox".

:shifty: Theoretical "polyfilla". It is good for filling the gaps.
Didymos Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jul, 2009 07:51 pm
@Anais,
There's always the original:
The Devil's Dictionary
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