1
   

Becoming research versus Being research? Philosophical positions in science?

 
 
Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2008 05:52 am
I'm entering new territory for me, hoping someone has an answer or lead for me. Links would be great, even if you have something which VAGUELY relates to this question. Feel free to skip to my question, which is #3 at the bottom. Greek words are underlined.

1. If the duration of now depends on how we conceive of the passage of time, then Becoming philosophers Heraclitus, William James and Henri Bergson experience a duration of now different from Being philosophers Plotinus, Parmenides, and disciples of the Eleatic School.

2. Science is dominated by a Becoming perspective, with its emphasis on chronos as its time-objective time. Correlational study, Prospective study, Retrospective study, Longitudinal study, all relate to events occurring within a Becoming or chronos flow of time. Laboratory and field experiments commonly examine the impact of an event or intervention on some outcome, and thus also operate within a Becoming perspective. Daniel N. Stern (in The Present Moment, 2004) is an advocate of the Being perspective and kairos-subjective time. Stern points out that "contemporary psychology has been comfortable with chronos as its time concept and use it productively. For instance, if one is interested in notions of before and after, the estimation of time intervals, the temporal limits of perceiving simultaneity or continuity, most studies of memory, or even how narratives and the real world is constructed in the mind, there is no need for a present moment that is any thicker than a point, no need for subjective units of time, and certainly no need for present moments that unfold with characteristic time contours." (p. 137).

Stern's mother-infant dyad research, in contrast, required a thicker present moment, a present moment that unfolds with uncharacteristic time contours.

3. My question is: Does anyone have a definition of (or further information about) Becoming research versus Being research? Any information about these philosophical perspectives as they relate to Science and research? Want to discuss it?

Thanks!

Billy
  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Discussion • Score: 1 • Views: 1,255 • Replies: 6
No top replies

 
Aedes
 
  1  
Reply Fri 4 Apr, 2008 06:21 am
@Billy phil,
I'll post more later when I get a break at work. Literally today I'm submitting a journal article for publication on top of a full clinical day.

In medical and in scientific research contexts I've never heard the distinction raised between "being" and "becoming", but it's an interesting way of organizing it.

Briefly, prospective studies that are controlled allow much greater inference about causality. For example, taking two identical cohorts with a disease, giving one a drug and the other a placebo, and following them over time to a pre-determined outcome measure will help you determine whether the drug is responsible for therapeutic or adverse events. There are various kinds of prospective trials.

Cross-sectional research and retrospective research only allows correlations to be made, and thus causality is much more difficult to establish.

This figure is from a great series in The Lancet on research methods. I know one of the authors. There is a lot of good info in this series that I could link.
Billy phil
 
  1  
Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 06:09 am
@Aedes,
Paul,

Thanks for your comments, and I'm eagerly awaiting you getting back to this. Congrats on the submission--maybe you could add some details about that in your profile. Are you near Asheville?

I think my question is much more philosophy than science, and Philosophy of Science probably has not integrated these two different philosophical perspectives (Being vs. Becoming) for any discussion yet. So we're left with the unacknowledged reality that the Becoming paradigm dominates science.

I am not concerned with whether there are actually two separate kinds of "time". My concern has to do with the separate experiences of time, how they influence how you do research, and whether these two philosophies which influence temporal experience have influenced the philosophy of science in some distinct bifurcated way.

We have the reality of how a researcher (for example, Stern), sitting firmly in his Being philosophical perspective instead of simply bending to the research methods (and Becoming perspective) which have been handed down by "science authorities". Before him, people examined the mother-infant dyad for centuries, but until Stern in the 1960s filmed the dyad interacting and repeatedly examined the interaction sequence, slowing it down, as if under a microscope, they never saw how much was going on in a 2-3 second interval. The Being view is related to an expanded present moment where a LOT occurs, whereas for the Becoming view, it's barely a filmic frame passing from the future into the past.

Stern's observational research does not fit into any of the categories listed as Becoming. It's a different paradigm for research, a Being paradigm in a field dominated by the Becoming paradigm.

The early philosophers took their own phenomenology of time and acted as if it were ontology- or the reality of time.

My original question was: Does anyone have a definition of (or further information about) Becoming research versus Being research? Any information about these philosophical perspectives as they relate to Science and research? I want to discuss it further.

billy
Billy phil
 
  1  
Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2008 06:08 pm
@Billy phil,
Certainly there is an "objective" time, and for those who subscribe to a Becoming philosophical view, that suits them very well.
I guess this is much more about the different experiences of time than any "reality" of time. And it seems throughout the ages, philosophers have discussed the two different experiences of time (though they spoke of these experiences as reality, I think incorrectly).
It may have more to do with the Being view having a greater APPRECIATION for the present moment, whereas the Becoming view having a greater appreciation for history and anticipation.
Dean Wareham, frontman for indie bands Luna and Galaxie 5oo told his therapist Bernie about his struggle to be in the here and now:
Dean: Jack has this incredible ability to enjoy the moment. He's always smiling and laughing and having a good time, while I'm sad about the past and worried about the future. ....
Bernie: You're pissing on the present
Dean: What?
Bernie: If you have one foot in the past and one in the future, then you're pissing on the present. [from Black Postcards: A rock and roll romance, by Dean Wareham, 2008]
Of course, in this passage, their both revealing their bias against the Becoming view, though Dean may be unhappily stuck with it. There is no connection between either view and dissatisfaction, and it's no better to piss on the past & future.
0 Replies
 
prothero
 
  1  
Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 09:08 pm
@Billy phil,
Try the process philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead, mathematician coauthor with Russell of Principia Mathematica and Harvard philosopher.

Also the notion of quantum events or quantum observations instead of quantum particles. In fact a great deal of modern theories of everthing string theory, M theory and quantum theories of gravity imply that space time is not continuous but discrete and quantitized and that reality is composed of events (moments or droplets of experience) not discrete interacting objects with fixed properties.
Reality is continous flux and change not static fixed being.

"Science and the Modern World"
"Process and Reality" both A.N. Whitehead
bluemist phil
 
  1  
Reply Tue 5 Jan, 2010 10:47 pm
@prothero,
prothero;101931 wrote:
the notion of quantum events or quantum observations instead of quantum particles. In fact a great deal of modern theories of everthing string theory, M theory and quantum theories of gravity imply that space time is not continuous but discrete and quantitized and that reality is composed of events (moments or droplets of experience) not discrete interacting objects with fixed properties.
Reality is continous flux and change not static fixed being.

That is a powerful argument that puts realism back into its proper place as an oversimplified reduction whose purpose is to allow us a false but useful understanding of the world.

Aristotle's theory of scientific knowledge was the first to resolve the possibility of change in a formal Platonic world. He sliced the world into fixed segments which sequentially follow. This was the original picture theory of the phenomenal world. Objects can be designated and relations can be measured in each picture as the "state" of a static world. Most of science is still fully Aristotelean in this respect.

One can look at the sequence of pictures from the past and use induction to make guesses about the future. Example: in picture 1 it is cloudy and the rock is cool; in picture 2 it is sunny and the rock is warm. Problem: will picture 3 show a cool or a warm rock? Problem: Where did time disappear (see Augustine)?

Galileo had Heracleitan science figured out. It is this that made him the father of modern mathematical Heracleitan science. Berkeley took full advantage of this understanding of objective physical relativity to demolish both direct and indirect realism in his Dialogues.

Problem is that Galilean relativity seems to be *the* most significant secret in all of philosophy. Just look at the pathetic entry in Wikipedia, and its missing even from Russell's chapter on Galileo in his History. This is the single biggest reason why philosophy and science are in conflict. Science is 400 years ahead. But hopefully, philosophy will catch up in the next fifty years.
0 Replies
 
bluemist phil
 
  1  
Reply Wed 6 Jan, 2010 07:43 am
@Aedes,
Aedes;11067 wrote:
Cross-sectional research and retrospective research only allows correlations to be made, and thus causality is much more difficult to establish.
Absence of time is characteristic of Aristotelean science. Historical research is like that.

Aristotle wrote:
The same parts of the earth are not always moist or dry, but they change according as rivers come into existence and dry up. And so the relation of land to sea changes too and a place does not always remain land or sea throughout all time, but where there was dry land there comes to be sea, and where there is now sea, there one day comes to be dry land. But we must suppose these changes to follow some order and cycle. The principle and cause of these changes is that the interior of the earth grows and decays, like the bodies of plants and animals. . . .

But the whole vital process of the earth takes place so gradually and in periods of time which are so immense compared with the length of our life, that these changes are not observed, and before their course can be recorded from beginning to end whole nations perish and are destroyed.
0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

How can we be sure? - Discussion by Raishu-tensho
Proof of nonexistence of free will - Discussion by litewave
Destroy My Belief System, Please! - Discussion by Thomas
Star Wars in Philosophy. - Discussion by Logicus
Existence of Everything. - Discussion by Logicus
Is it better to be feared or loved? - Discussion by Black King
Paradigm shifts - Question by Cyracuz
 
  1. Forums
  2. » Becoming research versus Being research? Philosophical positions in science?
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 04/25/2024 at 04:00:23