A Truth Movie

@MJA,

Full of holes. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the flick; it brings up a number of interesting questions, but the history is ultimately shaky and misconstrues the reality of the research.

It's a great place to start asking questions, but the answers provided and suggested by the film are insane if one takes the time to do a bit of research.

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@Didymos Thomas,

As Didymos Thomas said; it has quite some holes, but opens some interesting, but sometimes insane perspectives.

I'm curious why you consider it truth? Please elaborate.

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@MJA,

I would say Zeitgeist is a fine example of truthiness. The movie is presented in a way that viewers want to believe it to be true, but of course, that in no way makes it true.

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@Theaetetus,

Theaetetus wrote:

I would say Zeitgeist is a fine example of truthiness. The movie is presented in a way that viewers want to believe it to be true, but of course, that in no way makes it true.

I certainly hope it's not true, but find ultimately our only hope is truth.

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MJA

PS: Where are the 9/11 planes or any parts of them?

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@Didymos Thomas,

Didymos Thomas wrote:

Full of holes. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the flick; it brings up a number of interesting questions, but the history is ultimately shaky and misconstrues the reality of the research.

It's a great place to start asking questions, but the answers provided and suggested by the film are insane if one takes the time to do a bit of research.

What's wrong with the Venus Project?

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@Holiday20310401,

I feel this thread is going to derail due the lack of the topic starter to provide any arguments regarding his statement. So hereby this will be my second and last post in this topic.

My advice to you MJA is to analyze this movie and discover where the holes are for yourself instead of being active in the discussion that's going to erupt. It will be a great learning project, and even relevant to philosophy.

As for you PS question of where the 9/11 planes are; we've all seen the footage of the airplanes going into the twin towers. No question there.
The two other crashes can be perceived as strange, but it by no means makes the official explanation utter junk, as Loose Change or Zeitgeist wants you to believe. Probably nobody on this forum has read the official explanations in detail, so it's hard to judge or ask ill conceived questions as "Where are the planes!".

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@Vasska,

The Venus Project?

What's wrong with it? Well, the notion that a "comprehensive plan" to reorganize society is a legitimate solution to the problems facing society is simply absurd. Forget the details of the plan, the very notion is beyond the scope of reality. Human society is a dynamic and impossibly diverse.

There are many good things we could say about the Project in discourse, but to suggest that the Venus Project or anything of it's kind is realistic is, well, beyond idealism.

Kinda highlights the problem of the Zeitgeist movie - they are trying, but the bold facts of reality stand in the way. Sorry, Christianity is not a Sun worshiping cult, and the US government is not responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Similarly, you cannot reorganize all of human society along the lines of a comprehensive plan.

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@Didymos Thomas,

If this movie is true I'm clickin my heals together and going back to Kansas.
Our should we just pour water on it and the bad will go away?
Hmmm, click click, I'm outa here!

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MJA

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@Didymos Thomas,

Didymos Thomas wrote:

The Venus Project?

What's wrong with it? Well, the notion that a "comprehensive plan" to reorganize society is a legitimate solution to the problems facing society is simply absurd. Forget the details of the plan, the very notion is beyond the scope of reality. Human society is a dynamic and impossibly diverse.

There are many good things we could say about the Project in discourse, but to suggest that the Venus Project or anything of it's kind is realistic is, well, beyond idealism.

Kinda highlights the problem of the Zeitgeist movie - they are trying, but the bold facts of reality stand in the way. Sorry, Christianity is not a Sun worshiping cult, and the US government is not responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Similarly, you cannot reorganize all of human society along the lines of a comprehensive plan.[/[/SIZE]quote]

Dear Thomas,

For the enlightenment of all, history would argue differently, Christianity was all about the Sun or the Son:

"Galileo's championing of Copernicanism was controversial within his lifetime. The geocentric view had been dominant since the time of Aristotle, and the controversy engendered by Galileo's presentation of heliocentrism as proven fact resulted in the Catholic Church's prohibiting its advocacy as empirically proven fact, because it was not empirically proven at the time and was contrary to the literal meaning of Scripture.[7] Galileo was eventually forced to recant his heliocentrism and spent the last years of his life under house arrest on orders of the Roman Inquisition." -Wikipedia

Oh, and equality is the simple comprehensive plan mankind as is the planet is desperately looking for. = is the mathematical solution and equality the truth infront of us all.

The Lion is One!

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MJA

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@MJA,

If anyone is looking for an intelligent look on topics like these, go to the video section on this site and listen to CONVERSATIONS WITH JOHN JUDGE. He as alot of information which can help educate yourself.

also, I dont understand how someone can contradict Addendums information on inflation. Its well documented through out economics. The NUMBERS, i mean.

My sympathies go out to the truth seekers. Dont be discouraged by false information. you know what i mean. As for the ideas presented in the second part of addendum, Most people fear truly different insights on social structure. They use alot of terms like communism or socialism. lol. So, it is my general belief that when someone brings up the idea of totally changing our way of life, that they are merely talking about change. True change, is what people will argue to death about. The past is brought up alot, but without context.

Funny how every major change, socially, economically, politically, etc..., is always the result of human suffering.
We never make changes, until it reaches a certain point. The truth seekers are the real innovative philosophers of modern day. Everyone else is following the same traditions as usual. Its all good though. Right?

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