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What is darkness?
I have asked the question in several philosophy forums and off course the first reply is "absence of light", but I`m not completely satisfied with this answer. I ask myself is there something more to this "phenomena"? Maybe it is "something" that "disapear by light", a "non-existing/anti force" related to infinity/eternity(bla,bla,bla).
Anyway, I find darkness facinating and hope that someone has some thoughts to share.

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@molok69,

Darkness is the exact opposite of light. There must be an opposite to create the balance within the universe. I don't believe there's any real force in it other than the necessity to balance creation with day and night so all things cycle in balanced harmony. Our plants and trees would not grow in balance if there were one without the other. Maybe someone else could give you a scientific explanation of it.

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@Justin,

Don`t need any scientific explanations, thanx!
Anyway, are they the exact opposite? I don`t think everyone would agree!
No light = darkness, no darkness = light?
Does everything need an opposite to create balance in the universe? (should probably be an own thread)

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@molok69,

I think you are making a mistake when you assume that darkness is an object. I would be like suggesting that the empty set is an element in itself. Your reasoning is leading to a paradox.

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@Arjen,

Well, existence IS a paradox!

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@molok69,

In what way?

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@Arjen,

The past does not exist anymore, the future does not exist yet and the moment is no range of time.

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@Arjen,

I feel that the wiki does the word "darkness" some justice. Darkness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientifically, you're going to be disappointed- it's the absence of light. As someone with a more literary and artistic background, I'll tell you that there's more to it than that. When I saw the title of the thread, I thought you were referring to the more poetic sense of the word (look at the "Poetic" subcategory in the wiki). Poetically, you're not going to be disappointed- its aesthetic and psychological effects are fascinating.

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@molok69,

molok69 wrote:

The past does not exist anymore, the future does not exist yet and the moment is no range of time.

That is merely the fallacy of the common linear conception of time, not existence.

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@Faun147,

Faun147 wrote:

That is merely the fallacy of the common linear conception of time, not existence.

Yeah, you`re right, but would anything exist without time? or would there be any time without existence?

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@molok69,

Thank you Faun for the link on Darkness.

Hmm... does time really exist? In all actuality, there's really no beginning and no end to time. Something to ponder...

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@Justin,

Justin wrote:

Thank you Faun for the link on Darkness.

Hmm... does time really exist? In all actuality, there's really no beginning and no end to time. Something to ponder...

Could be a thread?

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@molok69,

Time is a hard issue to conceptualize. My concept of time is that it is an idea to help measure existence. It is measured by change. Existence can exist with or without it, just as length can exist with our without the centimeter. The question then shifts to: "can existence be without change?"

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@molok69,

molok69 wrote:

Well, existence IS a paradox!

What is the paradox?

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@Justin,

Justin wrote:

Thank you Faun for the link on Darkness.

Hmm... does time really exist? In all actuality, there's really no beginning and no end to time. Something to ponder...

But time is a dimension of the universe, and if, as we are told, the universe had a beginning, time had a beginning. And if, as we are told, the universe will end, then time will end.

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@Faun147,

To Faun147:
Can anything exist only within itself? I`m not sure I quite understand your question? Please explain to a slow mind.

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@kennethamy,

kennethamy wrote:

What is the paradox?

Well, existence is a "product" of itself. Existence must "experience" itself in order to exist, and must exist in order to "experience" itself. It exsist as a result of it`s own existence! Anyway something like that, a paradox? I think so!

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@molok69,

molok69 wrote:

To Faun147:
Can anything exist only within itself?

Yes! The Universe/Aware/God that we exist in. If all there was before the beginning, was a Paradox of Potential, the Great non-something. Then this Aware/God/Universe can only be Aware of itself, totally self contained.

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@PoPpAScience,

PoPpAScience wrote:

Yes! The Universe/Aware/God that we exist in. If all there was before the beginning, was a Paradox of Potential, the Great non-something. Then this Aware/God/Universe can only be Aware of itself, totally self contained.

I agree! And this I find to be somewhat a paradox!

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@kennethamy,

kennethamy wrote:

What is the paradox?

The mother of all Paradox's is, something coming from no-thing. That is the only way the very first thing could have popped into Being. Even if it is not this Universe that came first, the very first thing had to come from no-thing.

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