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John Birch Society

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 01:05 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Or, Hunter S.
???
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 01:09 am
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:
Quote:
Tho I never had the honor of meeting him,
I embrace Joe McCarthy in spirit.


After ruining the lives of many good Americans, one of whom I happen to know and respect,
McCarthy slunk off the public stage in disgrace. He died a depressed, miserable drunk.

I piss on Joe McCarthy's pathetic corpse in spirit.
Long may he remain a figure of scorn.
I suspect that he 'd BE PROUD of earning the resentment of those who scorn him.

I deny that he ruined the lives of any GOOD Americans.

He did not slink.
The commies slunk off in disgrace & oblivion on Christmas Eve of 1991,
praise be unto Joe McCarthy and Augusto Pinochet.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 01:26 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:
Thanks edgar

Very informative indeed.

Article # 1

The insincere hit job on the Catholic church:
http://www.jbs.org/jbs-news-feed/6164-the-insincere-media-hit-job-on-the-catholic-church

Crikey, sounds a really terrific organization! Neutral
I don 't care much one way or the other qua the Catholic Church,
but what moves u to believe the JBS was insincere ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 01:29 am
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
david don't mind. He loves McCarthy and McCarthy was full of piss.
I guess that 's normal.
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plainoldme
 
  2  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 06:30 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I knew you wouldn't know that one . . . you wrote about two different Welch's and then there was a comment about someone named Thompson, so I referred to Hunter S. Thompson, gonzo journalist.
djjd62
 
  2  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 06:33 am
@plainoldme,
RIP Hunter S

great writer, loved fear and loathing on the campaign trail
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plainoldme
 
  4  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 06:56 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Sorry, but McCarthy did ruin the lives of people. While some of the Hollywood crew were able to continue writing under pen names, not everyone was so lucky. I had a friend in Detroit, an attorney who was disbarred after having been called up before HUAC. He made his living working in libraries (although he did not have a library degree and was limited to checking books and shelving them) and bookstores. He was hesitant in his mannerisms and spoke with a stutter, that others who had known him prior to the HUAC examination, said was not there while he was practicing.

He was often deeply depressed. In fact, I ran into him one day and he invited me to join him for lunch. I felt I could not deal with his depression and so I said that I was dropping off a piece at the South End, WSU's student newspaper at the time. I often wrote for the paper despite being in grad school, so the excuse seemed valid.

He died in his sleep that night and I learned about his death through his obit in the Detroit Free Press. The editorial the paper ran on his broken law career and his broken life spoke volumes that were not allowed by the strict format of the obituary. Joseph P. McCarthy, in his self-serving arrogance, ruined the career of that good man who might have gone on to protect more innocent people than he did.

I regret that my own lack of patience kept me from spending an hour with this man.

Recently, another negative force has risen in America, the Tea Party, commonly called Tea Baggers by liberals and sensible centrists, but, because my kids are horrified that I would use a phrase with that sexual connotation, I call them Tea Totalitarians. My phrase is less cruel and more accurate.

Members of this group scream socialist at Obama our all too conservative president. Had it not been for Joseph McCarthy, few people today would work themselves into such a lather over a mistaken definition and application of said definition for socialism.

Now, many religious people defend evil in the name of their religion. Although I left the church years ago, the conservative turn Catholicism has taken upsets me. Mine was the church of John XXIII and the Brothers Berrigan. Perhaps, individuals within the Tea Totalitarian movement are not evil, but ignorant and mislead, but there is evil behind their stance.

The only thing I can say to recommend the Tea Baggers is that this movement to the extreme and irrational right might cause the majority of the nation to become educated in political theory and to move away from the right.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 06:57 am
@plainoldme,
Yikes! I can't believe that I wrote Welch's rather than Welches!
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 08:25 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I knew you wouldn't know that one . . . you wrote about two different Welch's and then there was a comment about someone named Thompson, so I referred to Hunter S. Thompson, gonzo journalist.
I had reference to Brigadier General John T. Thompson; did u know him?





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 09:25 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Sorry, but McCarthy did ruin the lives of people.
People who DESERVED IT.
Fighting against the nazis and the commies, both internally and externally,
was a fine and admirable thing to do and everyone who did it,
including Tailgunner Joe, has my love and gratitude.




plainoldme wrote:
While some of the Hollywood crew were able to continue writing
under pen names, not everyone was so lucky.
I have no sympathy for nazis nor commies; we were at war,
defending ourselves from them. We shud have been more aggressive.




plainoldme wrote:
I had a friend in Detroit, an attorney who was disbarred
after having been called up before HUAC.
I don 't know his case, but presumably, he deserved it.
If I had been called to testify before HUAC, I 'd have done everything
that I possibly coud to injure the commies, or the nazis before them
(for whom the Committee was formed). Did HE try to harm the commies?
Did HE fight against them?
If he HAD, then he probably woud not have been disbarred.
From what u 've said, I imagine that he was a traitor in the war against communist slavery.





plainoldme wrote:
He made his living working in libraries (although he did not have a library degree and was limited to checking books and shelving them) and bookstores. He was hesitant in his mannerisms and spoke with a stutter, that others who had known him prior to the HUAC examination, said was not there while he was practicing.

He was often deeply depressed.
Maybe he felt guilty for helping the commies.



plainoldme wrote:
In fact, I ran into him one day and he invited me to join him for lunch. I felt I could not deal with his depression and so I said that I was dropping off a piece at the South End, WSU's student newspaper at the time. I often wrote for the paper despite being in grad school, so the excuse seemed valid.

He died in his sleep that night and I learned about his death through his obit in the Detroit Free Press. The editorial the paper ran on his broken law career and his broken life spoke volumes that were not allowed by the strict format of the obituary. Joseph P. McCarthy, in his self-serving arrogance, ruined the career of that good man who might have gone on to protect more innocent people than he did.
Another commie-loving William Kunstler, u think?
Fighting against communist slavery is a GOOD and ADMIRABLE thing to do.



plainoldme wrote:
I regret that my own lack of patience kept me from spending an hour with this man.

Recently, another negative force has risen in America, the Tea Party,
commonly called Tea Baggers by liberals and sensible centrists, but,
because my kids are horrified that I would use a phrase with that sexual connotation,
That 's the first I 've heard of THAT.




plainoldme wrote:
I call them Tea Totalitarians.
My phrase is less cruel and more accurate.
That is oxymoronic.
Thay are anti-authoritarian, anti-socialist = pro-freedom, pro-Individualism.
Thay support strict interpretation of the Original Agreement,
the Supreme Law of the Land, curtailing and crippling domestic jurisdiction
(not to imply that it interferes with defense from our enemies, internal nor external)
thereby to enhance freedom of the Individual, and blessedly undermining collectivism.


plainoldme wrote:
Members of this group scream socialist at Obama our all too conservative president.
As well thay SHOUD; its true.
Have u considered the delights of North Korea?
Y not try a vacation there? Thay have what u like
and no one will call their president anything.
U think Kim Jong-il will let u post from there ?




plainoldme wrote:
Had it not been for Joseph McCarthy, few people today would work themselves into such a lather
over a mistaken definition and application of said definition for socialism.
That 's to his CREDIT that we fight against socialism, fight against collectivism with every bit of energy
that we can raise. To the extend that he helped that, we owe him love and praise.
His family shud get permanent tax immunity, in consideration of services rendered.






plainoldme wrote:
Now, many religious people defend evil in the name of their religion. Although I left the church years ago, the conservative turn Catholicism has taken upsets me. Mine was the church of John XXIII and the Brothers Berrigan. Perhaps, individuals within the Tea Totalitarian movement are not evil, but ignorant and mislead, but there is evil behind their stance.
WHAT "evil" ??





David


raprap
 
  3  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 09:32 am
My Birch John is still useful.

A Birch tree blew over in 1989 when the wall fell. So I had a friend with an Alaskan Mill saw it into lumber and I dug a hole and built a Birch Outhouse.

There is no door, as the view out the outhouse is inspiring and a door would dampen the inspiration. The hole does have a lid and upon the lid is a
picture of 'Tail Gunner Joe' and a sign that reads 'still pissin off Amerika.'

Rap
tsarstepan
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 09:35 am
@raprap,
Near perfect use for a fallen birch tree. Very Happy The only better option is turning some of the lumber into homemade baseball bat but that's just my quirky thinking.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 09:42 am
@raprap,
raprap wrote:
My Birch John is still useful.

A Birch tree blew over in 1989 when the wall fell. So I had a friend with an Alaskan Mill saw it into lumber and I dug a hole and built a Birch Outhouse.

There is no door, as the view out the outhouse is inspiring and a door would dampen the inspiration. The hole does have a lid and upon the lid is a
picture of 'Tail Gunner Joe' and a sign that reads 'still pissin off Amerika.'

Rap
Are u gonna put up pictures of Stalin and the Rosenbergs on it?
Will thay help your inspiration ?
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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 11:54 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

plainoldme wrote:
Sorry, but McCarthy did ruin the lives of people.
People who DESERVED IT.
Fighting against the nazis and the commies, both internally and externally,
was a fine and admirable thing to do and everyone who did it,
including Tailgunner Joe, has my love and gratitude.




plainoldme wrote:
While some of the Hollywood crew were able to continue writing
under pen names, not everyone was so lucky.
I have no sympathy for nazis nor commies; we were at war,
defending ourselves from them. We shud have been more aggressive.




plainoldme wrote:
I had a friend in Detroit, an attorney who was disbarred
after having been called up before HUAC.
I don 't know his case, but presumably, he deserved it.
If I had been called to testify before HUAC, I 'd have done everything
that I possibly coud to injure the commies, or the nazis before them
(for whom the Committee was formed). Did HE try to harm the commies?
Did HE fight against them?
If he HAD, then he probably woud not have been disbarred.
From what u 've said, I imagine that he was a traitor in the war against communist slavery.





plainoldme wrote:
He made his living working in libraries (although he did not have a library degree and was limited to checking books and shelving them) and bookstores. He was hesitant in his mannerisms and spoke with a stutter, that others who had known him prior to the HUAC examination, said was not there while he was practicing.

He was often deeply depressed.
Maybe he felt guilty for helping the commies.



plainoldme wrote:
In fact, I ran into him one day and he invited me to join him for lunch. I felt I could not deal with his depression and so I said that I was dropping off a piece at the South End, WSU's student newspaper at the time. I often wrote for the paper despite being in grad school, so the excuse seemed valid.

He died in his sleep that night and I learned about his death through his obit in the Detroit Free Press. The editorial the paper ran on his broken law career and his broken life spoke volumes that were not allowed by the strict format of the obituary. Joseph P. McCarthy, in his self-serving arrogance, ruined the career of that good man who might have gone on to protect more innocent people than he did.
Another commie-loving William Kunstler, u think?
Fighting against communist slavery is a GOOD and ADMIRABLE thing to do.



plainoldme wrote:
I regret that my own lack of patience kept me from spending an hour with this man.

Recently, another negative force has risen in America, the Tea Party,
commonly called Tea Baggers by liberals and sensible centrists, but,
because my kids are horrified that I would use a phrase with that sexual connotation,
That 's the first I 've heard of THAT.




plainoldme wrote:
I call them Tea Totalitarians.
My phrase is less cruel and more accurate.
That is oxymoronic.
Thay are anti-authoritarian, anti-socialist = pro-freedom, pro-Individualism.
Thay support strict interpretation of the Original Agreement,
the Supreme Law of the Land, curtailing and crippling domestic jurisdiction
(not to imply that it interferes with defense from our enemies, internal nor external)
thereby to enhance freedom of the Individual, and blessedly undermining collectivism.


plainoldme wrote:
Members of this group scream socialist at Obama our all too conservative president.
As well thay SHOUD; its true.
Have u considered the delights of North Korea?
Y not try a vacation there? Thay have what u like
and no one will call their president anything.
U think Kim Jong-il will let u post from there ?




plainoldme wrote:
Had it not been for Joseph McCarthy, few people today would work themselves into such a lather
over a mistaken definition and application of said definition for socialism.
That 's to his CREDIT that we fight against socialism, fight against collectivism with every bit of energy
that we can raise. To the extend that he helped that, we owe him love and praise.
His family shud get permanent tax immunity, in consideration of services rendered.






plainoldme wrote:
Now, many religious people defend evil in the name of their religion. Although I left the church years ago, the conservative turn Catholicism has taken upsets me. Mine was the church of John XXIII and the Brothers Berrigan. Perhaps, individuals within the Tea Totalitarian movement are not evil, but ignorant and mislead, but there is evil behind their stance.
WHAT "evil" ??





David




McCarthy did ruin the lives of some very decent people. If I were a religious person, I would hope he is rotting and suffering in hell.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 12:00 pm

If thay had been DECENT,
he woud not have ruined their lives.





David
edgarblythe
 
  5  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 12:04 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I can't begin to tell you how despicable that comment is, david.
Merry Andrew
 
  3  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 12:37 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think David has hit a new low -- even for him -- in despicable and insensitive commentary on this thread. Way to go, Two-Gun.
djjd62
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 12:54 pm
@Merry Andrew,
c'mon guys it like those jews in germany, i mean if they'd just been christian their lives wouldn't have been ruined (insert sarcastic smiley here)
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 01:44 pm
@Merry Andrew,
Merry Andrew wrote:
I think David has hit a new low -- even for him -- in despicable
and insensitive commentary on this thread. Way to go, Two-Gun.
I 'll stand by that, with PRIDE!
I have NO sympathy for commies or nazis.
I know what thay 'd have done to us, if thay had the chance.
If u wanna support their side, then your words (despicable) describe YOU.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 01:50 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
c'mon guys it like those jews in germany,
i mean if they'd just been christian their lives wouldn't have been ruined (insert sarcastic smiley here)
Joking or not, that 's not a fair comparison. The Jews in Germany were innocent.
Thay had done NOTHING to deserve what befell them.
Some of them had won the Iron Cross in WWI.

U cannot say the same of commies or nazis in America.
Thay woud have enslaved us or (if we were lucky) just murdered us, as thay did the Czar and his family.

I re-iterate and reaffirm what I said.

The nazis and the commies were at war with us.
War is NOT a trivial matter, as all 3 of u tacitly imply.



David
 

 
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