@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:I should add that I'm not in total disagreement with your view.
I think the need for guns is in large part due to the existance of guns and the danger they pose in the wrong hands.
I agree with you here.
I just don't think that disarming the law-abiding citizens FIRST is the right answer.
TECHNICALLY, it woud be an
EXAGGERATION
to say that there is
NO SUCH THING as a "law abiding citizen"
in that newly born babies have not yet had time
to violate any laws and this may persist during the earliest years
of childhood, but after thay can walk and talk, it is
almost IMPOSSIBLE
to remain law abiding citizens.
If u r ten minutes late in feeding the parking meter,
u know that u violated the law, or if the lite turns red
as u pass thru the intersection, u know it, but we live amidst
multiple webs of statutory, common law and administrative rules, federal, state & municipal
of whose existence we r not aware, that we commonly violate laws all the time,
the same way that we unknowingly and non-maliciously crush lower life forms
(small insects) as we walk down the street.
For instance:
some years ago, I attended a symposium qua federal and New York
employment law for lawyers who had significant practices in that area.
There were a few 100 lawyers in attendance in the audience.
On the stage, were numerous experts
very senior in the profession, some judges,
and commissioners and whose practices were dedicated to that area of professional concern.
Their combined seniority in professional practice probably aggregated to centuries on-the-job.
During Q. & A. from the audience, thay addressed many possible situations including the dynamic relationships
between federal statutes among themselves, New York interpretive judicial decisions,
federal interpretive judicial decisions and administrative regulations.
Concerning one scenario, answering the question of a lawyer
from the audience,
thay reached a consensus after about half
an hour of debate. In the face of a follow-up question from
another lawyer from the audience, as to whether implimenting their advice
violated a statute of New York, upon a few minutes of consideration:
thay admitted that
it did; i.e., the super-experts
had advised the lawyers to do thus and so in that scenario,
which upon re-consideration (later, after this flaw was detected)
thay admitted was against State law of NY.
THEREFORE, if some citizen
took the collective advice of the group of extra super erudite legal experts:
he woud thereby violate the law of NY, and be held accountable for it.
My point is
THIS:
If the extra senior superexperts exalted in honor and wisdom up onto the stage above the other lawyers
did not know what the laws require,
then what chance
does a fellow with a high school diploma have of remaining innocent
of violating laws?????
Quad est demonstratum:
the Saints and Angels philosophy of the 2nd Amendment is devoid of merit.
The Founders of this Republic did
NOT write the Bill of Rights
to protect the
SAINTS and ANGELS of America.
Thay wrote it for every citizen of America.
If a man commits crimes, then he shoud be imprisoned for a long time, or killed,
for committing those crimes.
If a man is intolerably dangerous because of
mental defect
(which I 'm sure that many on this forum will attribute that defect to ME),
then he shoud be
ISOLATED from the decent people, the same as Typhoid Mary was.
Violent criminals who choose to commit robbery or murder, be thay sane or not,
have no interest in
obaying gun control laws or obaying marijuana laws.
As the law has not prevented criminals from getting & having marijuana
and stopped no one from getting alcohol in the 1920s,
will not stop anyone from getting guns on the blackmarket.
That is an exercise in futility and foolishness.
David