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Public school zero tolerance policies.

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 17 Oct, 2013 05:36 am
@Lordyaswas,
Lordyaswas wrote:
I feel like I have fallen down a hole and there's a big rabbit in a top hat looking at me.
You are the epitomy of the strange American, David. I honestly think that you have a screw loose,
or more frighteningly, there are more like you out there.
Like the majority of the US Supreme Court
in the HELLER and the McDONALD cases ?


Lordyaswas wrote:
Personally, I feel that any child found with a firearm on them at school, should immediately be taken into protective care until it can be established whether one or both parents are morons, psychos or redman chewing redneck white supremists. Or acombination of the above.

In other words, u admit that your philosophical position
is logically and Constitutionally indefensible
and therefore
u must rely upon ad hominem insolence to vindicate your wishes.

Incidentally, if that child did in fact become a kidnap victim,
as u describe, then he 'd have good cause to defend himself,
at the personal expense of his kidnappers.





David
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2014 04:13 pm
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OLIVE BRANCH, Miss. — On the last Friday in January, 15-year-old Dontadrian Bruce was finishing up his biology project at Olive Branch High School. He and his group had constructed a double helix out of Legos, and his teacher asked them to pose for a picture with their project. Bruce smiled and held up three fingers—his thumb, forefinger, and middle finger, palm facing outward. The teacher snapped a photo on her phone and went onto the next group.

On Monday morning, Bruce was summoned out of first-period English by assistant principal Todd Nichols, who showed him the photo. “You’re suspended because you’re holding up gang signs in this picture,” said Nichols, according to Bruce.

Bruce explained that he was simply representing the number on his football jersey, “3,” and that all the kids did it in football practice. He also said he had no idea the gesture was known to signal affiliation with the Vice Lords, a Chicago-based gang with a strong presence in Memphis, Tenn., 20 miles north of Olive Branch.

“I was trying to tell my side, and it was like they didn’t even care,” said Bruce. When his mother, Janet Hightower, received a call from the school, she was shocked at the news. Her son had never been in trouble like that before, she said, and he made As and Bs.

“He’s a good child,” Hightower said. “I know what he does 24 hours a day. If he leaves home and goes two houses down, he’s gonna text me and let me know.”

When Hightower arrived at the school, she was shown the picture, and that same day, February 3, Bruce was sent home. On February 6, Bruce appeared before a disciplinary hearing officer who decided his fate: “Indefinite suspension with a recommendation of expulsion.”


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/education/school-spirit-or-gang-signs-zero-tolerance-comes-under-fire-n41431

It's crazy out there.....
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 9 Mar, 2014 06:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
Thay need legal representation.

That principal shud be expelled.





David
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 10 Mar, 2014 07:32 am
Quote:
10-year-old suspended for making fingers into shape of gun

Ten-year-old Nathan Entingh doesn't understand why he got suspended from school for three days.

According to his father, Paul Entingh, one moment the boy was "goofing off" with his friends in fifth-grade science class, and the next the teacher was taking him out of the classroom, invoking Ohio's zero-tolerance policy.

Cupp outraged boy suspended for gun sign The offense? Nathan was "making his fingers look like a gun, having the thumb up and the pointed finger sticking out," said Entingh, describing the February 26 incident.

"He was pointing it at a friend's head and he said 'boom.' The kid didn't see it. No other kids saw it. But the teacher saw it," he said. "It wasn't threatening. It wasn't hostile. It was a 10-year-old kid playing."


http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/us/ohio-boy-suspended-finger-gun/
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 20 Mar, 2014 11:05 am
along the theme " the people running our schools are insane"

Quote:
Kids these days, they can’t handle any negativity. Stereotypical millennials always need to be rewarded for their accomplishments whether or not they actually accomplished anything. Now, one school is taking this to heart by banning red ink.

At an academy in the U.K. county of Cornwall, teachers have been instructed not to grade papers in red pen because it is a “very negative color,” vice principal Jennie Hick told the Daily Mail. Green was suggested instead for corrections (the opposite of red, we supposed).

What’s more, teachers are encouraged to write “two or three positive comments” about the work handed in, and students can respond to their teachers’ comments in purple. Wonder what color they’ll write their diary entry in when, as adults, they realize everything is a lie and they are not actually special snowflakes?


http://time.com/31960/school-bans-teachers-from-using-red-ink-because-its-too-mean/
Off topic and not even america but this was too good to pass up!
boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 11:02 am
Some light at the end of the tunnel?

Quote:


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) — A Virginia Beach sixth grader who came to the aid of a classmate who was cutting his arm returned to school Friday with a clean record after initially facing expulsion for her actions.

Last Thursday at Bayside Middle School, Adrionna Harris took a razor from the student, threw it away and convinced him what he was doing wasn’t right.

She thought she was doing the right thing, so Friday she told the school administration what happened. The way school officials responded led to a question of if the school’s zero tolerance policy went too far.

Instead of getting praise from the school administration, Adrionna got a 10 day suspension with recommendation for expulsion.


http://wavy.com/2014/03/19/student-suspended-for-taking-razor-from-self-harming-classmate/
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 11:11 am
@boomerang,
That is sarcasm I take it.....a major meeting with the school district bosses was required to clear a student who was only in trouble because of idiotic school policy, this is not encouraging.
boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 11:15 am
@hawkeye10,
At least she wasn't expelled!

Maybe it's a crack in the zero tolerance policies. Common sense prevailed for a change. I see that as progress.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 10:34 pm
@boomerang,
boomerang wrote:

Some light at the end of the tunnel?

Quote:


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) — A Virginia Beach sixth grader who came to the aid of a classmate who was cutting his arm returned to school Friday with a clean record after initially facing expulsion for her actions.

Last Thursday at Bayside Middle School, Adrionna Harris took a razor from the student, threw it away and convinced him what he was doing wasn’t right.

She thought she was doing the right thing, so Friday she told the school administration what happened. The way school officials responded led to a question of if the school’s zero tolerance policy went too far.

Instead of getting praise from the school administration, Adrionna got a 10 day suspension with recommendation for expulsion.


http://wavy.com/2014/03/19/student-suspended-for-taking-razor-from-self-harming-classmate/
All kidding aside, that school offered her a very good lesson
on the danger of TRUST. She trusted them and to their credit,
thay demonstrated how irrational her fellow humen can BE.
I hope that she has the wisdom to keep that actively in her memory
for the rest of her life and to pass along that learning. Trust is risky.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 10:37 pm
@boomerang,
boomerang wrote:

At least she wasn't expelled!

Maybe it's a crack in the zero tolerance policies.
Common sense prevailed for a change. I see that as progress.
Today, in the Florida House of Representatives HB7029
was passed by a landslide mandating a cutting back, reduction
of the insanity of Zero Tolerance policies.





David
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 10:41 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
that school offered her a very good lesson


YEP, adults are nuts and are not to be trusted with the wrong information. So many kids are smart enough to make sure the parents never find out anything they dont want them to know.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 10:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
DAVID wrote:
that school offered her a very good lesson


YEP, adults are nuts and are not to be trusted with the wrong information.
So many kids are smart enough to make sure the parents never find out
anything they dont want them to know.
Yes. I dont believe that shud be limited only to adults.





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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 10:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Om: for the rest of her life and to pass along that learning. Trust is risky.
--------

Yeah, you, the scuzzball turning your friends and neighbours into McCarthy.

I could never figure out why a sensible woman like Boomer would let a scumbag like you get anywhere close to her son.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 07:56 am
@hawkeye10,
In my job, I review others work -- legal type disclosure, numbers, entries that sort of thing. Any way in my review, I mark things up -almost like a teacher grading a paper, but more with comments, correcting things or asking a clarifying question.

One time quite a bit ago, I used red ink when doing so - I try to use different colors rather than a blank or blue so it stands out and isn't missed. One person asked me not to use red as it is an "angry"color.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 10:20 am
@Linkat,
Quote:
. One person asked me not to use red as it is an "angry"color.


Nicely illustrates how things have gotten so bad the the Army decided that it needed to take on a massive service wide effort to teach resiliency, because it can no longer be assumed that Americans have any.

I have found that when people start bitching about "tone of voice" in which they are being talked to that they almost always are resisting the message, the complaint about how they get the message is a diversion.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 10:26 am
@hawkeye10,
Children that are taught that they are dog's gift to the universe don't do well in the real world, Hawk.

The same thing occurs when a country has a massive propaganda program that stifles thought and encourages meme mouthing.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2014 10:30 am
@hawkeye10,
Hawk: I have found that when people start bitching about "tone of voice" in which they are being talked to that they almost always are resisting the message, the complaint about how they get the message is a diversion.

--------------------

You probably have learned that at a2k from your compatriot meme mouthers.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 8 Apr, 2014 11:32 am
Boy suspended for Twirling a pencil in a menacing way

Glen Meadow Middle School seventh grader, Ethan Chaplin, was recently suspended after, he says, he was simply twirling a pencil in math class. News 12 New Jersey reported that the Vernon Township, New Jersey teenager was twirling a pencil with a pen cap on top when another student yelled, “He’s making gun motions, send him to juvie.” But Ethan denies that interpretation of his actions and said that the student who yelled the comment had been bullying him earlier that day and was just trying to get him in trouble.

Although Ethan explained the bullying situation, he says that administrators ignored his side of the story. The teen was taken to the principal’s office and News 12 notes that, “he was suspended, pending the outcome of a psychological evaluation.”

Ethan recounted, “I was shocked because I’m like, how am I not going to come back to school? I didn’t even do anything.” His father, Michael Chaplin agrees saying, "I’m livid. I'm absolutely livid. I think it's gross misconduct at its finest. They took something so minimal and took it so far over the edge."

Infowars spoke to Mr. Chaplin, who explained the five-hour long physical and psychological evaluation that his son endured, possibly for naught. Chaplin told the outlet, “The child was stripped, had to give blood samples (which caused him to pass out) and urine samples for of all things drug testing…Then four hours later a social worker spoke to him for five minutes and cleared him. Then an actual doctor came in and said the state was 100 percent incorrect in their procedure and this would not get him back in school.”

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/7th-grader%E2%80%99s-pencil-twirling-leads-to-suspension-and-psychological-evaluation-when-called-%E2%80%98gun-motions%E2%80%99-193746209.html
boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2014 09:50 am
Science teacher suspended for teaching science:

Quote:
A science teacher has been suspended from his job at a Los Angeles high school for helping two students with science projects that the school district considers "imitation weapons."

Greg Schiller, 43, who teaches Advanced Placement biology and psychology at the Cortines School of Visual & Performing Arts, was investigated by the L.A. Unified School District in February after a school employee thought two of the Science Fair projects he was overseeing were dangerous.

One used compressed air to fire a small projectile—but it wasn't hooked up to a source of air pressure, so it couldn't have fired. The other was a research project into how a coil gun—basically a tube charged by a power source until it expels a projectile—works. Schiller asked for additional graphs and analysis on that one.

Neither of the completed projects was built at school. Schiller had just followed their progress in photos. Both projects have been confiscated as evidence, according to the mother of the ninth grader who was researching powered coils.

Now Schiller is suspended, which has led to all sorts of consequences around the school: The fencing team he coached has been banned from competing without him, his psychology class is being taught by an inexperienced sub (and the school won't let him provide lesson plans), and he's been unable to participate in labor negotiations as a teachers' union rep.

"As far as we can tell, he's being punished for teaching science," Warren Fletcher, president of United Teachers Los Angeles, told the L.A. Times.

Students and parents have started a Facebook group in support of Schiller, and they held a rally at the school last week to call for his reinstatement.
boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2014 09:52 am
@Linkat,
Was it a sharpened pencil?

We should have zero tolerance for sharpened pencils in school.
 

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