MSNBC's top programs provide more than 18 times as much coverage of Haiti earthquake as Fox News' to

... I find it hilarious, but really unsurprising that you are still looking for commies hiding under your bed...

If we could discover what a foofie is

Never mind, rabbit. I went back and reread this thread to see if I could find the source of msolga's outrage. It is, evidently, primarily the two links provided by RG, one of Limbaugh and one of Beck.

I think you missed everything.What do you think of these disgusting comments by the far right?

Which "disgusting" comments by whom?

Evidently she's "stopped dead in her tracks" with the thought that anyone would dare be critical of the US president during this time of tragedy. Those must be the "disgusting comments" of which you speak. Perhaps she's insulated enough from US politics to believe that the "far left" would never have taken shots at President Bush during a time of tragedy.

You know, it is hard, from a distance, to know how much impact the material I've seen here might actually have had on people's opinions in the US. How many actually see the Glenn Becks & others of his ilk on other media outlets on a regular basis. How many other television broadcasters, newspapers, radio stations support such views. Maybe they are just an extreme fringe that no one much pays any attention to? Maybe the handful conservatives here who have pushed such a strong anti-aid to Haiti line over the past few days are the only ones who have been influenced? I don't know. My understanding (perhaps wrongly) is that the far right of US politics has run an anti-aid (to Haiti) line, as part of an anti-Obama line. That (if it is true) is what I find deeply offensive & opportunistic. I don't really think it matters if those views are aired primarily on Fox, or on a variety of media outlets. It is the message that offends. But, if I've got my wires totally crossed about this, please feel free to tell me so. I'm listening.

I thought she believed some were suggesting we should not have sent aid to Haiti, which is what I wanted clarification on

Haiti did not become deforested, obscenely corrupt, without government, and mired in grinding poverty by bad luck. Nor by being abused by the rest of us. They did it to themselves, and they can undo it to themselves, with our help if they should want it.

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OUR AID WOUD BE WELCOME
IF WE KEPT IT IN AMERICA, WHERE IT BELONGS !

The media has stirred the hearts of many. But, let us see if the U.S. ultimately benefits from its largesse with a military base in Haiti, and an eager source of military recruits. Not that that would be bad. In my opinion, that would be good. Fair trade is not thievery.

I dunno, Deb.

But I eagerly await clarification!

To make it easier for you, I'm asking where do you stand on the Limbaugh & Beck videos actually posted to this thread? What is your view on what they actually said? You seem very keen on clarification from me. Now I'm asking for some from you.

You honestly think that my primary interest in this subject is US politics?

My understanding (perhaps wrongly) is that the far right of US politics has run an anti-aid (to Haiti) line, as part of an anti-Obama line.

But, if I've got my wires totally crossed about this, please feel free to tell me so. I'm listening.

Whether you choose accept it or not, this what I have been most interested in on this thread. I've found the posts from Robert & Setanta, in particular, very helpful & illuminating in gaining a better understanding.

Ticomaya said:

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I thought she believed some were suggesting we should not have sent aid to Haiti, which is what I wanted clarification on

But there there were such suggestions, definitely reservations ... say nothing of comments that there should be "strings attached" ! On the two main Haiti threads (plus others) Here's a random sample from a quick search just now:

I could spend hours combing over all threads on this subject to supply you with every single example, but frankly, I have neither the time nor the inclination.

You can do that for yourself, if you like.

In any case, I remain perplexed at these sorts of comments in response to a humanitarian crisis of huge proportions.

Finally, Ticomaya, where do you stand on the issue of US aid to Haiti? Are you supportive? Do you have reservations? If so, what are your reservations?

Wanna bet?

I bet:

You'll not get it...you'll get a total avoidance of the meat of the matter, and a demand that you find cites for a wish to deny aid, a stated and clearly articulated and published one, instead of the wish being screamingly obvious, but avoided as a clear statement because the arse-holes have not had the guts to articulate their desires clearly, so that they can wriggle and squirm and deny when confronted.

I am in favor of it. I have no reservations.

Does that surprise you? Did you think I ate little babies in my spare time?

I didn't ask her for cites for a wish to deny aid. I've reached the conclusion that she can't find any.

Well I'm delighted & yes, actually surprised, that you support aid to Haiti, Ticomaya.

Nope, I don't think you're a baby eater, either. But I certainly wish you've give more detailed responses than "My view? Unoffended." Does that mean you actually support those views? (Can I expect a "Yup" in response to that? )

And I'm also now somewhat perplexed at the persistence of your questions directed at me. Apart from a bit of baiting, I doubt you were all that interested , really. I'll keep that in mind for future reference.

But I'll try to refrain from engaging you in the future, msolga, now that I know your sensitivities.

And, maybe, if you are going request "clarifications" in such a persistent manner, you could a least be prepared to respond with more than glib, evasive one liners when the same is requested of you.