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The Drug War vs the Bill of Rights

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2009 02:30 am

Notice that government never seems to take notice
of the hopelessness of the futility of its War on Drugs.

For how many decades
has it been throwing billion$$ of dollar$$ of our money down the drain of futility?
It is a testament to the invincibility of the human spirit that any American who desires illegal drugs can get them.

That was the spirit that defeated the Prohibition of the 1920s.





David
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2009 05:55 am
@ebrown p,
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3) The Fourth Amendment rights against search and seizure protect people who have broken some law. Innocent people don't care about what evidence found in their houses is presented in court.


Bad (really bad) thinking. The fourth amendment protects EVERYBODY, or at least it would if courts were to uphold it and get rid of things which violate it such as "no knock" raids.

No knock raids came about due to paranoia over drugs on the part of the Nixon admin and the idea was to eliminate the possibility of evidence being flushed down toilets while police were announcing themselves via standard police procedures. The problem: the entire idea of a no-knock raid totally violates the most basic idea of Anglo-Saxon common law which is that a man's home is his castle.

In fact in the mid 70s when no-knock raids first saw the light of day, it quickly became a major form of amusement amongst hoodlums to finger somebody they didn't like as a drug dealer and then watch cops break the victim's door down while drinking beer and eating hot-dogs.

There actually was a case out in Western Md. in which a guy killed several cops and federal agents on such an occasion and a jury took ten minutes to find the guy innocent of all charges and you'd have thought that would have been the end of no-knock raids forever, but they seem to have come back in recent years and it make take some other major lesson of that nature to eliminate the problem altogether.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2009 09:03 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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It is a testament to the invincibility of the human spirit that any American who desires illegal drugs can get them.


The sad irony is that, thanks to obstructionist Republican Congresspeople, Americans who need legal drugs can't get them.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2009 09:06 am
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:

Quote:

It is a testament to the invincibility of the human spirit that
any American who desires illegal drugs can get them.


The sad irony is that, thanks to obstructionist Republican Congresspeople,
Americans who need legal drugs can't get them.
THAT problem is BIPARTISAN. U wanna check the votes
on funding the War on Drugs or medical marijuana ?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 21 Nov, 2009 09:51 am
Correct, there's generally nothing to choose between dems and pubbies on this one in our 1.5-party system.

Again we need a voters' bill of rights and the first item of the thing has to be runoff or instant runoff elections. That would at least open the door for some meaningful third party to rise up and replace one of the 1.5 present brain-dead ones.

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