Anti-tobacco Legislation and the First Amendment

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No actually, it isn't your business.

so haw far are you willing to take that theory? Are there any valid laws? Are any victimless crimes legitimate controlling force from the collective? Do employeers have the right to screen your piss and do a credit check on you?

You are going to draw the line someplace, and then I will have you in a TKO. What you do effects others, thus others have rights to control and or punish your behaviour.

My primary concern here is with "the agency will be able to...prohibit marketing campaigns, especially those geared toward children." To me, this sounds like a violation of the first amendment of the constution. I don't expect many people to care very much. People always have rationalizations for why their pet projects aren't actually free speech violations, even though they prohibit speech.

As a lover of freedom, and of reading the Constitution truthfully,
I must AGREE with u, Brandon. ...

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- California lawmakers on Monday moved a step closer to banning smoking at state beaches and parks, following the lead of hundreds of communities nationwide.

The state Assembly voted 42-27 in favor of the ban. Anti-smoking groups say the bill would make California the first state to ban smoking throughout its entire park system if it is signed into law.

The Senate passed it previously but must agree to amendments made in the Assembly before it is sent to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has not taken a position on it

The crusade to make the use of a legal product illegal continues...

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- California lawmakers on Monday moved a step closer to banning smoking at state beaches and parks, following the lead of hundreds of communities nationwide.

The state Assembly voted 42-27 in favor of the ban. Anti-smoking groups say the bill would make California the first state to ban smoking throughout its entire park system if it is signed into law.

The Senate passed it previously but must agree to amendments made in the Assembly before it is sent to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has not taken a position on it

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/22/AR2010032203511.html?hpid=sec-nation

So the excuse that smoking in the great outdoors was infringing on the rights of non smokers seems to have lost traction, so onto the next excuse....littering. Anything that works to get the fanatics what they want, except for the truth of course.

I see it as a matter of self defense, Hawkeye.

I see it as a matter of self defense, Hawkeye.

You take the line of reasoning pretty far.
How far are you willing to go?

Would it in theory be self defense to kill others or prevent
the birth of babies so that you could have enough to eat, drink, and breathe?

If not, where do you finally draw the line on what you have the right
to take away from others in the promotion of your best interests?

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Would it in theory be self defense to kill others or prevent
the birth of babies so that you could have enough to eat, drink, and breathe?

In the face of acute scarcity of food, water n oxygen, yes

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Would it in theory be self defense to kill others or prevent
the birth of babies so that you could have enough to eat, drink, and breathe?

In the face of acute scarcity of food, water n oxygen, yes

Oh. My. God!