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steissd
 
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Reply Thu 26 Dec, 2002 01:36 pm
Well, morons can be found in any vocation representatives. I do not think that percentage of idiots in the military is higher than in general population. Well, I cannot claim that I am absolutely unbiased in this opinion of mine: I am the former infantry officer of the Soviet Army.
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pueo
 
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Reply Thu 26 Dec, 2002 07:10 pm
steissd,
i agree, with you although i never said that there were more than average morons in the military. while you have afghanistan, i had the beirut fiasco. lost a lot of friends there.

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/lookup/200110189503

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/terror.htm

theres more to the story than what is published here. one was that marine security had no rounds in their weapons, just empty magazines. this was because some moronic officers in washington decided that giving them live rounds would be dangerous.
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Thu 26 Dec, 2002 08:19 pm
...and did anyone check whether Lorena Bobbitt was out of that country that week?
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steissd
 
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Reply Fri 27 Dec, 2002 05:56 am
Pueo, it is not moronity, it is the "political correctness" applied to the army. We had a similar episode in Israel. In 2000, at the beginning of the terrorist war imposed on us by Arafat, the group of border policemen was besieged by terrorists in the Tomb of Joseph (religious Jews believe that the biblical Joseph was buried there after the coffin with his bones was taken from Egypt in course of Exodus; the facility is in the West Bank, and it was guarded by the police forces and not by the army unit). One of the policemen was seriously wounded and needed evacuation. But the army was not given an order to break the siege from outside, since the Israeli PM Ehud Petaine (aka Philippe Barak) ?- a former army general having degenerated into effeminate pacifist nerd ?- was concerned with possibility of large number of enemy's casualties (sic!). Negotiations with the terrorist leaders were undertaken instead of military offensive, and after some time the border policemen were permitted to leave the facility. But the wounded cop died of blood loss in meantime. Ironically, the policeman was an Israeli Arab, though, not a Muslim (he belonged to the esoteric sect of Druses).
Politicians are more dangerous morons than some of generals may be; they just sacrifice lives of their compatriots in favor of improvement of their own reputations of "humanists" and "peaceniks". And in the democratic countries armies are submissive to the governments consisting of civilians.
I have no evidences, but it seems to me that the officers in Beirut were instructed by some moronic diplomat before having left guards without munition. Public relations aspects were always more important for the diplomats than security of the soldiers of their own country...
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Sun 29 Dec, 2002 04:50 pm
Esoteric sect of Druses? Any different than esoteric sect of Jewes or messainic Christians? Or Wahhabist Isamics. Gnostics?
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steissd
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2002 02:42 pm
Steve, the word "esoteric" does not imply any negative connotation. The Druses sect is closed for people that have not been born in their community (they do not accept proselytes), and its doctrine is kept in secret from non-Druses. Very few is known about essence of their religion, while anyone may get detailed information on Judaism, Christianity or Islam (even in its Wahhabite version). Anyone may get converted into the mentioned religions, but no stranger will ever be able to become a member of the Druse community. No mixed marriages of Druses and non-Druses are possible either (while there are lots of Jews having married Christians and vice versa; for example, my own mother married the Soviet ethnic German ?- my father).
Druses live mainly in the Western part of the Mediterranean area, in Israel, Syria and Lebanon, and they are usually absolutely loyal to the countries they live in (in Israel they serve in the army, and there are even Israeli generals belonging to the Druse community). Ethnically Druses are Arabs, but they do not identify themselves with Palestinians.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 30 Dec, 2002 05:53 pm
Steissd

I don't understand "where you are coming from". You appear to be a Russian/German Jew who has a secret admiration for the Nazis and a virulent disdain for the Jewish/socialist/liberal tradition.

Are you trying to smoke out people you suspect as enemy?

I know who the Druze are, and I know (as a Rosicrucian) what esoteric means.



Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin esotericus, from Greek esOterikos, from esOterO, comparative of eisO, esO within, from eis into; akin to Greek en in -- more at IN
Date: circa 1660
1 a : designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone <a body of esoteric legal doctrine -- B. N. Cardozo> b : of or relating to knowledge that is restricted to a small group
2 a : limited to a small circle <esoteric pursuits> b : PRIVATE, CONFIDENTIAL <an esoteric purpose>
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