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where is Gobekli Tepi located?

 
 
OGIONIK
 
Sun 1 Mar, 2009 02:01 pm
supposed garden of eden.

interesting to say the least.

if u could link on google maps or something would be awesome
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rhymer
 
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Sun 1 Mar, 2009 02:06 pm
look here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
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Jasper10
 
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Sat 29 Apr, 2023 12:55 am
@OGIONIK,
Maybe it it isn’t there anymore because it rained a lot.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 29 Apr, 2023 01:02 am
@Jasper10,
That statement is so typical of you and your claims.

If you look at images of Gobekli Tepi it's very arid, almost desert like.
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Jasper10
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 12:17 am
@Jasper10,
It’s just that nearly every culture has a legend of a global food which may have wiped out the garden of Eden.

izzythepush
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 03:07 am
@Jasper10,
It's a myth.
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Jasper10
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 08:14 am
@Jasper10,
Which may not be a myth because creation scientist have very convincing arguments for a global flood.So much so that secular scientists have stopped debating with them because they lose every debate.
izzythepush
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 08:23 am
@Jasper10,
No they don't.

They have pseudo scientific bullshit, and if you actually understood science you'd know that.

Creation scientist is an oxymoron.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 07:12 pm
@izzythepush,
Being the godless person that you are izzy, I can understand why you don't believe the bible that you have never studied and wouldn't have a clue as to its true content, but I would expect you to accept any scientific discoveries that would support the great 'WORLD-WIDE' flood of Noah's day.

RSV…… Luke 2: 1; In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that '' THAT ALL THE WORLD '' should be ENROLLED.

And guess what izzy, not one of the Elders of all the indigenous tribes over here in Australia has any records, oral or otherwise, of any Roman Legions taking a census of the Australian people between 8 and 3 B.C.

Obviously, the ‘whole world here,' as in the flood story, refers to the known civilised world of those days.

Genesis 7: 11-12; When Noah was 600 years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month ‘ALL THE OUTLETS OF THE VAST BODY OF WATER BENEATH THE EARTH BURST OPEN,’ all the floodgates of the sky were opened, and rain fell on the earth for forty days and nights.

Scientists have long suspected there was an ENORMOUS AMOUNT of water beneath our feet, but this may be the first direct evidence that a vast reservoir of water is locked inside the mantle’s “transitional zone.” The significance: If just 1 percent of the “transitional zone” is made up of water, researchers say, it would triple the amount of water on the Earth’s surface.

One assumption is that IF once all the ice is melted and added to the global oceans our seas would rise by 216 feet as compared to the current level.

Scientific researchers today, have absolutely no idea of just how much water is locked up in the transitional Zone, and yet they believe that if just 1 percent of the “transitional zone” is made up of water, it would triple the amount of water on the Earth’s surface.

But if in the future it is discovered that much more than 1 percent of the “transitional zone” is made up of water, and the forty days and nights of pouring rain, was not water that had evaporated from the earth, but some of the water from the transition Zone that would have been blasted high into the atmosphere from some super deep sea-bed volcanic eruption that had released the deep underground waters of the transition Zone, coupled with earth’s close encounter with a decomposing Comet, that was said to have occurred around 2350 B.C., with enough tidal pull by the close encounter of the passing comet to cause the Transitional waters to cover the high hills viewed and recorded by the observer of such a flood?
The Anointed
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 07:28 pm
@The Anointed,
It must hurt you biblical ignorant atheists when science proves the bible to be correct in saying that all the planets of our Solar System were created before our sun and that life had begun to evolve on earth before the sun burst into light and life.

And that science will prove that the flood of Noah did occur, which you poor ignoramus’s have ridiculed, and science will prove that the great flood of the third millennium which you poor atheist sods have ridiculed also, did occur.

Genesis 7: 11-12; When Noah was 600 years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month ‘ALL THE OUTLETS OF THE VAST BODY OF WATER BENEATH THE EARTH BURST OPEN,’ all the floodgates of the sky were opened, and rain fell on the earth for forty days and nights.

Scientists have long suspected there was an ENORMOUS AMOUNT of water beneath our feet, but this may be the first direct evidence that a vast reservoir of water is locked inside the mantle’s “transitional zone.” The significance: If just 1 percent of the “transitional zone” is made up of water, researchers say, it would triple the amount of water on the Earth’s surface.

Scientists have for the first time linked the deep Earth’s water cycle to earthquakes and volcanic activity.

Water, sulphur and carbon dioxide, which are cycled through the deep Earth, play a key role in the evolution of our planet – including in the formation of continents, the emergence of life, the concentration of mineral resources, and the distribution of volcanoes and earthquakes.

Subduction zones, where tectonic plates meet and one plate sinks beneath another, are a key part of the cycle – with large volumes of water going into and coming out from the Earth, ‘MAINLY THROUGH VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.’ Yet, just how (and how much) water is transported via subduction, and its effect on natural hazards and the formation of natural resources, has so far been poorly understood by science.

Now, a new paper from a project led by researchers from Bristol, Durham, and Imperial has shown that water in the deep Earth triggers earthquakes and volcanic activity by releasing fluids along fault lines and lowering the melting point of rocks.

The researchers say this is the first conclusive evidence that directly links the water-in and water-out parts of the cycle with magma (melted rock) production and earthquake activity.

The eruption of the Icelandic volcano Hekla 4 in the third millennium B,C., is dated to 2310 +/- 20 BC. And according to scientists, the activity of the two volcanic cones on Mt Ararat, on the side of which mountain, Noah’s ark was said to come to rest, began to manifest itself in the third millennium BC. The evidence of this is the remains of human bodies found during the excavations, as well as household items dating from the Bronze Age.

The evidence for regional environmental change at about the same time was confirmed and extended by Mike Baillie (Queen’s University Belfast), whose tree-ring analyses of Irish bog oaks showed very significant narrowing of the rings around the year 2345 BC, associated with identified tephra from the Icelandic Hekla 4 volcano, dated to 2310 +/- 20 BC. This suggests a volcanic origin of the c. 2350 BC event.
The Anointed
 
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Sun 30 Apr, 2023 07:38 pm
@The Anointed,
I won't be near a computer until next Friday, so I thought it best to post these three posts on the flood until I return.

Over 2,000 years before George Smith’s discovery of the deluge tablets in Iraq, there existed an account of the Chaldean [pre-Babylonian] flood myth. Berosus, an ancient Chaldean historian living in the time of Alexander the Great in the 4th century B.C.E, relayed to the Greeks the antiquity of his peoples deluge myth in the following words: “After the death of Ardates, his son Xisuthrus reigned eighteen sari. In his time happened a great deluge; the history of which is thus described.

Xisuthrus, the tenth King of the Chaldeans--Noah, the tenth family head from Adam the first.

The deity Cronos appeared to him in a vision, and warned him that upon the fifteenth day of the month Daesius there would be a flood, by which mankind be destroyed. He therefore enjoined him to write a history of the beginning, procedure, and conclusion of all things, and to bury it in the city of the sun at Sippara; and to build a vessel, and take with him into it his friends and relations; and to convey on board everything necessary to sustain life, together with all the different animals, [In the area of his known world] both birds and quadrupeds, and trust himself fearlessly to the deep.

Noah's ark was a rectangular chest, which had no steerage=rudder and no means of propulsion such as sails, he was to trust himself fearlessly to the deep.

Having asked the Deity whither he was to sail, he was answered, “To the Gods;” upon which he offered up a prayer for the good of mankind. He then obeyed the divine admonition and built a vessel five stadia in length, and two in breadth. Into this he put everything which he had prepared, and last of all conveyed into it his wife, his children and his friends. After the flood had been upon the earth, and was in time abated, Xisuthrus sent out birds from the vessel; which finding no food, nor any place whereupon they might rest their feet, returned to him again. After an interval of some days, he sent them forth a second time; and they now returned with their feet tinged with mud. He made a trial a third time with these birds; but they returned to him no more: from whence he judged that the surface of the earth had appeared above the waters.

He therefore made an opening in the vessel, and upon looking out found that it was stranded upon the side of some mountains; upon which he immediately quitted it with his wife, his children, and the pilot. Xisuhrus then paid his adoration to the earth: and having constructed an altar, offered sacrifices to the Gods.”

It should be noted that the account of the deluge relayed in the tablets discovered by George Smith differ only very slightly from Berosus’ account, which differs only slightly from the story handed down by the Chaldean, Abraham, whose father ‘Terah’ was High Priest in the temple of the Chaldean city of Ur.

The flood of Noah didn’t come as a surprise. It had been preached on for four generations. Something strange happened when Enoch was 65, from which time “He walked with God.” Enoch was given a prophecy that as long as his firstborn son ‘Methuselah’ was alive, the judgement of the flood would be withheld, but as soon as he died, the flood would be sent forth.

Enoch named his firstborn to reflect this prophecy. The name Methuselah comes from two roots: muth, a root that means death, and from shalach, which means ‘To Bring’ or ‘To Send Forth.’ Thus, the name Methuselah signifies, ‘His Death Shall Bring.’ And, indeed, in the year that Methuselah died, the flood came.

Remembering that Abraham was the son of Terah the High priest of the temple in the Chaldean city of Ur, and he was, according to the erroneous Roman OT and Jewish Masoretic text, 58 when Noah died, the question is now asked, could the Chaldean name ‘‘Xisuthrus’ have the same meaning as that of the name ‘Noah’, which is, “One who brings relief or comfort?”

The Chaldean month of Daesius, is the 2nd month, which corresponds with the biblical account that it was in the second month that the flood came. But there is a two-day discrepancy: the biblical account is the 17th day, [See Genesis 7: 11.] whereas the other is the 15th day.

These three flood accounts are so similar it becomes obvious that they originated from the one source. Another interesting similarity between the Chaldean deluge story and the one as handed down through the Hebrew, is that before the flood, people lived extraordinary long lives until the god/gods declared that man shall no longer live past a restricted age limit. This signifies that the floods of both cultures mark the same transition in the history of the world, that being, the birth of the modern world.

The more that I am forced to look at the flood accounts, the more I am convinced that some catastrophic event occurred 4,500 years ago, which caused worldwide devastating floods and tsunamis, of which the more accurate account of the flood that devastated the civilized world of that day, can be found in the Hebrew culture that came down from the Chaldean Abraham, and his family, whose language and racial religion have remained intact for over 4,000 years.
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Jasper10
 
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Mon 1 May, 2023 12:39 am
@Jasper10,
I know science and it ain’t the nonsense science that is peddled as fact at the moment.It’s theories are failing catastrophically.

The garden of eden ain’t there because it was wiped out in a deluge is a definite possibility and sound evidence backs it up.

The evidence that The Anointed puts forward is typical of the barrage of credible arguments the atheistic scientists are subjected to.No wonder they have given up debating with creation scientists.

They lose every time because their ridiculous scientific theories can’t compete with the credible alternative scientific theories that the creation scientists put forward.

izzythepush
 
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Mon 1 May, 2023 02:44 am
@The Anointed,
All this from a bigot who tells badly recycled Irish jokes.

"God fearing " people like you are the very worst.

Does anybody bother reading your bullshit?
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 1 May, 2023 02:46 am
@Jasper10,
You don't understand anything.

You're the most clueless idiot I've ever come across.
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