@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
O'George, as is so often the case in such discussions, goes over the top, in this case by describing Obama's appointees as prima donas.
Setanta just can't bring himself to offer an unvarnished agreement on any point however small.
However this criticism, coming as it does from the undisputed king of 'over the top', is undeserved. Indeed the reference when applied to figures like Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton is obviously accurate, as it also is to Somers and others. Moreover it is also a fair characterization of the current democrat leaders in the Senate and the House of Representatives, who Obama must also deal with and tame if he can or has the will to try. Dumping Daschlke would be a good start - a useful example for the others.