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Autographed Memorbilia Question

 
 
Reply Tue 16 Dec, 2008 08:07 am
I am looking into purchasing a rare signed item (rare as in the guy is dead and no more are being produced). It's at auction and the item has a ridiculously low starting bid. I contacted the person selling and inquired as to why this was. He was a third party seller (not the person selling, but selling for the person who owns the item). He said that there was no attachment to the piece and yes it was original. It comes with a COA. It looks legit. I called the place that authenticated it and they don't put numbers on the COA's so there is no way for them to look it up. Anything authenticated and sold by them has been witnessed and therefor they know is real. However, the guys said there are several different scenarios: 1) the person selling it is confident that it will sell for the value of the item 2) the person selling it took the real ball and replaced it with a fake and is selling it with the real COA and doesn't care what they get for it because they need the money 3) it's real and the person doesn't care what they get for it because they need the money. He really wouldn't say if he thought it could be real or not.

What are the chances now days of getting a steal on something? I mean, I am a pretty cynical person. I believe if it seems too good to be true it probably is. I believe that you don't get anything for nothing. But I also believe that sometimes, we just get lucky. I mean, take the guy who buys something at a garage sale for $1 to find out it's worth $10,000 (or whatever).

What's your opinion on this? It really seems legit to me, which is weird because I am pretty realistic about things. I bought jewelry off ebay last year that was "valued at $400" and got it for $10. I know it's not worth $400. It might be worth more than $10 but not $400.

The deal on this item is literally a crime. I am very hesitant to believe that it's real. Could it be a Christmas miracle?

Tell me it could be so.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Dec, 2008 08:30 am
@Bella Dea,
You dont say exactly who the signature belongs to.
If it is of someone like Babe Ruth, Joe Dimaggio, or several other baseball players, it could be worth quite a bit.

Before you place a bid, you need to have it authenticated, and you need to get the provenance of the item.

WHERE and WHEN was it signed?
If you have access to the item, contact a reputable sports memoribilia shop and ask them if they can help you.
Ask them if they can provide someone that can authenticate the signature (WARNING, that could cost you a pretty penny).

If the seller refuses to allow you to do that, DONT buy the item because it is most likely a fake.
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 16 Dec, 2008 08:41 am
@mysteryman,
Ben Hogan
I spoke with the place that originally authunticated it and they suggested having it re-authenticated. That will run me about $70.

Worth it, if it's real.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 16 Dec, 2008 09:08 am
@Bella Dea,
I dont know where you live, but I did find a place online that might be able to help...

http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/sports-products/ben-hogan-signed-framed-golf-ball-display.html

And the link takes you to a signed, framed, golf ball display.
Look at what this item is selling for, and use that as you ROUGH guide to what the ball is worth.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 08:19 am
@Bella Dea,
Does the signature look like this?

http://66.132.211.220/images_sm/2257.jpg
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 10:32 am
@Intrepid,
This is it. Kind of at a different angle.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/khuren/ball.jpg
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 10:36 am
It's very hard to tell by looking at it if it's real or not.

Check out these...which is the real Babe?

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/khuren/babesig1.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e295/khuren/babesig2.jpg

Link has the answer.
http://www.psadna.com/images/newloa.jpg
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 10:41 am
Here is another authentic Hogan siggie.

http://www.oldjudge.com/site/oldjudgecom/img/page/sale_page/Hogan.jpg

And then this taken from a museum auction (which I'd assume must be authentic)

http://homepage.mac.com/wbwip/saratoga/auction06/thumb/82_hoganball.jpg
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 17 Dec, 2008 10:42 am
Honestly, I am going to have it reauthenticated. It is really hard to sign a golf ball and the normal signs of forgery (starts and stops, shakiness, deliberateness) aren't always able to be detected when you are writing on a dimpled surface.
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